What are some lesser known details about WHY religious groups in the UK fled to the New World in the 17th century?

And what exactly was the nature of their relationship with the Church of England and other groups building up to their departure? What were the defining economic factors?

This subject was glossed over so so much while I was growing up in Texas. It was always "poor, defenseless people seeking religious freedom" and that was it. I'm simply curious to learn what all I missed.

Any links or files would be greatly appreciated

Thanks everyone

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Where the German u-busts if WWII truly as effective as people say.

We hear a lot about the German U-boats on the Atlantic, and how they devastated the supply convoys to the UK. Where they as effective as people say?

Edit- supposed to say u-boats but can’t fix the title so....

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After World War Two, did any Allied Nations consider annexing their occupied German zones? If so, why did they choose not to?

Just something I was curious about. I’m surprised France (for example) didn’t attempt to expand into Germany.

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Was Berlin really known for Hedonism and crime during the 20s and early 30s, or is this just a common media trope that either never happened or was greatly embellished?

So I was recently watching American Horror Story, after my friend got me into it, and one the main characters during a season mentions that Berlin after WW1 became heavily known for Hedonism and a place where "anything could be bought for the right price". I brushed it off, and kinda just assumed that it was just American Horror Story completely rewriting chunks of history again

Then earlier today I was looking through RPG books and noticed in the description of a Call of Cthulhu book on Germany during the period it mentioned the same sort of idea, almost word for word. I figured "well, I'd barely trust either by themselves but two things saying almost the same word for word sounds weird"

Tried doing some research, and while I found stuff saying Berlin was stereotyped for it at times in history, I couldn't really find anything that said it was so far that it was just a common idea about the city, or anything about it flaring up as a stereotype in that time period.

I was mostly just curious where this sort of stereotype for the city during the time came from, and if it had any sort of truth to it

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Is there a comprehensive resource that debunks Graham Hancock out there that's easy for a layperson to follow, without talking down to them?

My boyfriend has drank the Graham Hancock kook-aid and asked for seconds (thanks Joe Rogan). I'm an archaeologist specializing in the North Coast ranges of California. I can pretty well debunk that Graham Hancock nonsense regarding Pre-Clovis conspiracies, but my boyfriend keeps trying to ask me "gotcha" questions about "anomalies" all over the world. Since I don't claim to be any sort of expert on sites that don't relate to my niche area, I'd like to know if there's one place that thoroughly debunks Hancock that I can steer him to. We have a lovely relationship otherwise, and this Graham Hancock stuff is the only thing we argue about.

Unfortunately hesitation to speak about areas outside my expertise seems to "prove" that Graham Hancock knows more about archaeology than I do and does better research. Confirmation bias at its finest.

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Alright historians, debunk this one.

So if the widely accepted belief that Plato invented Atlantis then why is it referenced by Herodotus, the Egyptian book of the dead, the Hindu Sanskrit writings and many other sources before Plato? Herodotus; a people called, "Atlantes" living nearby the Atlas mountains. https://fathersergio.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/pre-platonic-ancient-writings-pertinent-to-atlantis/ I have yet to see one compelling piece of evidence rebuking Atlantis in the Richat structure in the then, Tamenrasett river.

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Was the music of Robert Johnson played at the "From Spirituals to Swing" concert, and if so what songs were played?

I know that Robert Johnson was originally intended to appear at John Hammond's "From Spirituals to Swing" concert, but when John Hammond went to the Delta to find him, he found out Johnson died. a few months prior.

I have heard it said in two different documentary movies that instead a phonograph was brought on stag to play one or more of his records. However, this is always told in an anecdotal style and it is not mentioned on the Wikipedia article for the concert. Furthermore, it does not seem to be on any of the recordings of the concert.

Did this actually happen, or is it just a myth? If so, which of Johnson's songs were played?

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Genocide versus Genocides: What is the comparative utility of approaching what was done to the indigenous peoples of the Americas from 1492 onwards as a genocide, in the singular, versus many smaller campaigns of genocide? Are they even in opposition are are they complementary ways to understand it?

I think at this point it is safe to say most historians are comfortable using the 'G' word to describe post-1492, and even popular understanding is finally moving in that direction. But something I have seen is debate and discussion as to whether it is better to describe is as one, ongoing genocide, or better to talk about there being many different genocides.

Not being plugged into the issue enough, I can see utility in both, and possibly even they are more complementary frameworks rather than opposing ones, but you know what they say about assumptions.

So the sum of it is that I would certainly be interested in better understanding what this discussion looks like, the direction it is going, and what we can learn from the different approaches, both in the academy, but also within indigenous communities and how they specifically use the concepts to approach their own history.

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Happy Indigenous People's Day!

Hola a todos, todas y todes! Hello everyone! Happy Indigenous Peoples’ Day, or in my case, happy Respect for Cultural Diversity Day!

528 years ago, Genoese navigator & trader Cristoforo Colombo arrived at the island of Guanahaní, in search of a new way to reach the Indies. After promptly changing the name the Taíno people had given to their island to San Salvador, he launched further expeditions to other islands near the area, in what became the beginning of one of the most exhaustive, violent & longstanding periods of systemic colonisation, imperialism, cultural erasure & genocide in human history: the conquest of the Américas.

Today, as it tends to happen every year, the historical discipline continues to face challenges when exploring these particular issues. Over 300 years of conquest & subjugation by European powers such as Spain, Portugal, England & France left a pillaged & forever changed land, in what had been a continent previously inhabited by tens of millions of people from thousands of different civilisations, from Bering to Tierra del Fuego, from the Nez Perce of the Plateau all the way down to my ancestors, the Gününa-Këna (Puelches) & the Aonikenk (Tehuelches) of Mendoza. Today, both History & every humanity have to contend with the advent of many perspectives that would frame any mention of this day as other than “Columbus Day” as negatively revisionist, disrespectful of Italian-American identity, & even as forgetful of the supposedly magnificent & mutually beneficial cultural exchange that occurred from the point when Colombo “discovered” América as a continent. So let’s talk a bit about those things, shall we? I’m mainly interested in the latter point, but first, let me draw some interesting points my esteemed colleague & fellow native descendant /u/Snapshot52 proposed some years ago:

A Word on Revisionism

Historical revisionism simply refers to a revising or re-interpreting of a narrative, not some nefarious attempt to interject presentism or lies into the past.

The idea that revisions of historical accounts is somehow a bad thing indicates a view of singularity, or that there is only one true account of how something happened and that there are rigid, discernible facts that reveal this one true account. Unfortunately, this just isn't the case. The accounts we take for granted as being "just the facts" are, at times, inaccurate, misleading, false, or even fabricated. Different perspectives will yield different results.

As for the idea of changing the way in which we perceive this day, from “Columbus Day” to Indigenous Peoples Day, being disrespectful to the memory of Colombo & therefore to the collective memory of the Italian-American population of the United States, I’ll let my colleague tell us about it

The recognition of Columbus by giving him a day acknowledges his accomplishments is a result of collective memory, for it symbolically frames his supposed discovery of the New World. So where is the issue? Surely we are all aware of the atrocities committed by and under Columbus. But if those atrocities are not being framed into the collective memory of this day, why do they matter?

Even though these symbols, these manifestations of history, purposely ignore historical context to achieve a certain meaning, they are not completely void of such context. And as noted, this collective memory forms and influences the collective identity of the communities consenting and approving of said symbols. This includes the historical context regardless if it is intended or not with the original symbol. This is because context, not necessarily of the all encompassing past, but of the contemporary meaning of when said symbols were recognised is carried with the symbol as a sort of meta-context.

What we know is that expansion was on the minds of Americans for centuries. They began to foster an identity built on The Doctrine of Discovery and the man who initiated the flood waves of Europeans coming to the Americas for the purpose of God, gold, and glory, AKA: colonisation. The ideas of expansionism, imperialism, colonialism, racism, and sexism, are all chained along, as if part of a necklace, and flow from the neck of Columbus. These very items are intrinsically linked to his character and were the ideas of those who decided to recognise him as a symbol for so called American values. While collective memory would like to separate the historical context, the truth is that it cannot be separated.

For a more detailed exploration of Colombo’s role & image in US history, I recommend this post by /u/Georgy_K_Zhukov

Now, for a less US-Centric perspective

In my time contributing to r/AskHistorians, even before I became a moderator, I made it a point to express that I have no connection to the United States; if you’ve read something of mine, chances are you’ve noticed that I use the terms “América” & “America” as two very distinct things: the former refers to the entire continent, whereas the latter is what the US tends to be referred as. Why do I use this distinction? Because, linguistics aside, I’m every bit an American as a person from the US. See, in Spanish, we don’t speak about “the Americas”, we call the entire thing América. We don’t call Americans “americanos”, we call them Estadounidenses, because we understand the continent to be a larger entity than the sum of North, Central & South areas. I’ve spoken about this earlier here.

I’m from Argentina. I was born in a land that had a very different conquest process than that of North América, because the Spanish conquistadores were here earlier, they had more time to ravage every culture they came across, from Hernán Cortés subjugating the Aztlans & later betraying the tribes that had allied themselves with him, to Francisco Pizarro taking advantage of the political instability of the Inca empire to destroy the Tahuantinsuyo. However, before the conquistadores came to the area where my ancestors lived, they already knew the meaning of conquest, genocide & cultural erasure, as did many other peoples in the rest of the continent. See, these practices aren’t exclusively an endemic problem brought to our shores by Europeans, because we know & understand that much like the Aztlans & Incas subjugated & conquered hundreds of cultures & civilisations in their expansionism, the Mapuches of Chile & Argentina spent decades systematically conquering, displacing & forcefully integrating many tribes into their dominion, chiefly my ancestors, the Aoninek & the Gününa-Küne, who were displaced & conquered by the Mapuches, who forced them to pay tribute to them, while having to change their culture, their religion, their way of life & even their tribal names, because the Mapuches replaced them with the names Chewel Che & Pwelche (Tehuelche & Puelchue in Spanish), which in Mapundungún, the Mapuche language, mean Vicious People & People of the East, respectively.

So, as you can see, most of us historians aren’t trying to destroy anyone’s heritage, because we recognise that atrocities & cultural erasure practices were very much a thing among native civilisations & cultures. However, it would be disingenuous and plain wrong to try & deny that the conquerors applied systemic policies of extermination in their search for wealth & conquest in América. Even if we concede that a cultural exchange was indeed established from October 12 1492 onward, we need to be extremely aware of the fact that this exchange was always forcefully imposed by the conquerors over the conquered. Last year, we had a fascinating panel discussing the colonisation of the continent with several of our contributors, I highly recommend you check it out here. There, I spoke briefly about what made this cultural exchange forceful to begin with: El Requerimiento, The Spanish Requirement, a legal document issued by the Spanish crown that, from 1513 onward, every time the conquistadores encountered a native settlement, were supposed to read out loud.

To summarize it, it states that, under the authority of the Catholic Monarchs Fernando & Isabel, whose power emanated from the Pope, who had ceded every land they were to conquer to them & only them, & who did so because, as Pope, had been given power & authority directly from God through the Holy Church "Lady & Superior of the World Universe", the native indios had two choices.

First, to accept the rule of the Spanish Empire. If they accepted it, they were to be treated with respect, allowed to maintain their freedoms & lands, just under Spanish government.

If they were to reject the terms of el Requerimiento, the conquistadores promised to take their lands, their properties, their women & children by force & by holy war, as it was their divine right.

So, they gave them two choices. The problem?

The natives couldn’t understand Spanish. The conquistadores read this Requirement to people who didn't & couldn't understand the language. The Requirement was only issued as a poor attempt of justification for the atrocities they knew were going to commit. While in later decades they developed translations as they went further inland, the fact remains that the Spanish had absolutely no regard for cultural diversity or for respecting anyone’s sovereignty in their newfound colonies. I made a translation of the full text here.

Speaking of Cultural Diversity

Prior to 2010, Argentina called this day “Race Day”. Sounds pretty atrocious, huh? Still, it was widely accepted, in a country where, even if tens of thousands of Italian immigrants arrived over the centuries, there is no such thing as an “Italian-Argentinian” collective memory, at least not in the sense it exists in the US. However, when the government decided it was time to change the horrific name this day had traditionally had, there was a lot of pushback. Why? For the same reasons exposed earlier about “Columbus Day” in the US. While most Latin Américan former colonies gained their independence from Spain in the early 19C, we still speak the language they forced the natives to learn, many people still practice the religion they imposed on every civilisation they encountered, & most people ignore, consciously or otherwise, that roughly half of the continent can trace their ancestry to some native people or other. I just happen to be closer, generationally wise, & I just happen to be a historian. So, today, here in Argentina we celebrate the 10th anniversary of the law that changed the name of a dreadfully positivist & violent “Race Day” to Respect for Cultural Diversity Day.

Am I happy with this change? Somewhat. The sentiment comes from the right place, & many natives & experts of the humanities were consulted when thinking of an appropriate name. But there’s still a lot we have to do for the name to actually mean anything, reparations have to be made, for the memory of my now almost extinct people, & for those who are still alive, well, & fighting for their independence & freedom, including my people’s former conquerors, the Mapuches, who remain locked in a constant struggle against erasure & repression from the governments of both Chile & Argentina. There are instances in which history needs to be revised. This is one of those pivotal points in the construction of collective memory, where voices like mine join with the millions of native Indians who still live, some surviving, some striving to thrive, some nearly forgotten. We the subaltern are still here, & , at risk of going overboard with the self-centred ideas, I’m just a simple indio, who learned about their history from their great grandmother, who’s proud of their ancestry, & who will continue to do thorough, mindful scholarship to avoid centuries of history to be permanently deleted from the world.

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Why were cats worshipped in ancient Egypt?

While I was scrolling through reddit bored, I came across a post, which will be at the end,, which was alright. However it really made me think how we tend to overlook that. So I'm asking you guys, why were cats worshipped? Did they have some relationship to the gods then, or were they just considered sacred animals? Anyways, let me know your thoughts in the comments below. Sources are appreciated.

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Has the 14th Amendment really done more to protect corporations than it has to protect black Americans?

I just finished Barrington Moore Jr.'s Social Origins of Dictatorship and Democracy: Lord and Peasant in the Making of the Modern World. In the section covering the American Civil War, he writes "...the Fourteenth Amendment has done precious little to protect Negroes and a tremendous amount to protect corporations."

Is this an accurate assessment? If so, how and why was the 14A hijacked? And how has the application of 14A changed from 1966 when the book was published to now?

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What did Vikings do with their takings after raids? Media often shows Viking raids setting off from somewhat desolate places in Scandinavia and then making off with huge hauls of gold from lush looking lands in the west. What happened to all that gold/wealth when they got home?

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How much contact did Africans have with the people of Americas before Columbus arrived?

I was looking at some Olmec statues the other day and they looked remarkably African in facial features. Of course this was 700 BC. I am also somewhat skeptical that so many Africans came to the new world only on slave ships.

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What were Artillery Shells in WWI made of?

I tried to find this but couldn't anywhere, what were Artillery Shells in WWI primarily composed of? Copper, steel, iron?

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Which book would you suggest for a historian specialized in entirely different region and period, but interested in reading about the Near East history from the first civilizations to around the beginning of classical age?

I looked at the booklist and it is very extensive, but going through reviews it seems that most books listed there are very introductionary level. I am not knowledgeable in Near East history, but I am looking for something a bit more advanced and sourced and something I can use for reference in the future. I hope it is understandable what I mean and I hope this warranted a full post here, if not feel free to delete it. I would appreciate any suggestions!

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How unified and centralized was the Carthaginian empire? Would someone living outside of the core of the empire, a trader or a sailor for example, identify himself to foreign states as "from the Carthaginian realm"?

I'm trying to get a sense of the government system of greater Carthage.

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Was Christopher Columbus cruel, even when judged by the standards of his time?

Ive tried googling this but most websites that come up are extreme in one direction or the other (i.e., he is either described as history’s most egregious man or as a conquer who was innocent bc he was following the laws of the time). Curious to hear from genuine historians/history buffs.

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Were medieval clothes all grey and brown?

I remember hearing on a youtube video that not all medieval commoners would wear ugly, muddy rags, and that they often had clothes that varied in colour and design. Is there any truth to this? Were colorful clothes available to the majority of the population, or were they a privilege only for the rich?

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It's 1503 and I'm an English peasant who happens to be really, really good at singing. What are the odds I'll ever be discovered and make a career out of music?

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Was Ragnar Lodbrok really involved in the attack on Paris in 845?

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Did Hitler have an endgame in place?

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why are all the "discoveries" of the new world came from the side of Europe when Alaska and Russia are so much closer?

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Why did Vietnam's Nguyễn Dynasty succumb to French invasion and colonization in the Cochinchina Campaign and the Tonkin Campaign, while other East Asian cultural sphere nations avoided being colonized to such an extent?

It seems peculiar that while the East Asian cultural sphere nations of China, Japan, and Korea escaped full-scale invasions resulting in complete subsumption by Europeans, Vietnam was fully colonized by the French. Were there any significant differences in Vietnam's governance and/or military that made the nation prone to colonization, and/or did colonial powers lack the will to colonize entire nations further north of Southeast Asia? I also acknowledge that Taiwan was partially colonized by the Dutch and the Spanish, but why was it still of relatively short duration and limited impact compared to the French colonization of Vietnam?

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Does anyone want to take a stab at Columbus?

I really do want to learn something, not just stir the pot and my poor attempts at searching here aren’t finding anything ....

Christopher Columbus has become quite the controversial figure, especially as the US marks Columbus Day, but i see accounts all over the place. Can someone point to a balanced view, preferably based on evidence?

We know the whitewashed history many of us received about Columbus was missing quite a few negative details. Some people take Columbus as the symbol of the following 500 years of oppression but that is indirect and may be more political. However, While we don’t want to ignore the dark side of history, we should be careful about judging by current standards.

How brutal or repressive was Columbus, compared to other European “explorers” of his time? For direct brutality, were his actions similar to his peers, worse than, or maybe not as bad? I see info on the internet all over the map, so I don’t know what to think. I realize that I sometimes argue for my own biases without knowing enough. So where are the facts and historian view? Is my question even a balanced one or showing my own bias?

If I were alive at the time and sufficiently informed of events related to Columbus and exploitation of the new world, how would I judge his actions?

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What jobs can you do as a historian?

I know, that this is a different question to those questioned here, but I just wanted to know for which jobs I could apply as a historian in the future.

I‘m a student from Germany who has entered now the „Oberstufe“ (11th grade, a bit like the high school in the US) and due to me being extremely interested in history, I‘ve decided to choose history as one of my two main subjects. I'm also thinking about studying history at university later, but I still don't know where I could work as a historian afterwards.

I would be happy about an answer.

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