Why did English pub culture take hold in Ireland and Australia but not the United States?

by Vladith
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One word: Prohibition, which lasted from 1920 to 1933.

There are a near endless reasons why prohibition went in place.

There was the Saloon, a generally male only establishment where you could cash your check, purchase alcohol, gamble and find hookers, plus all the local political big man politics, all rolled into one sleazy package. So men would cash their checks, blow it all on hookers and booze and vote how the store propieter told them to vote. And then go home, drunk as hell, having blown their entire check on sleaze. Not exactly a recipe for marital bliss.

The second was that women had recently gained the right to vote and otherwise influence politics. So, they spear headed the banning of alcohol, which given the horrendous effect of alcoholism on the lives of many women because of the Saloon culture is understandable. (Please, note that it was then women a generation later who pushed to have the amendment removed because of its unforeseen negative effects.)

Religion and anti-immigrant bias also played a part. American rural protestants made up a huge part of the pro-Prohibiton camp while "wets" were often Catholic, urban and immigrants. As a result, there was a fierce battle between rural protestant Americans and urban Catholic immigrant Americans. Like the Irish, who formed an impressive voting block in the so-called "wet" camp.

Another influence is WW1 and the reaction to it. With the massive German immigration to the US, the Germans brought their pub and brewing culture with them. Anti-German sentiment and propaganda was rife after WW1, and prohibition was passed in part to end the "Hun" influence on American culture. All of their public brew houses and gathering places were effectively banned. The Irish and English pubs went with them.

If you want, there is a fascinating documentary on Netflix (hopefully, it's still on instant view) called, "Prohibition" by Ken Burns and Lynn Novick, published by PBS. I can't recommend it enough.