On which day did WW1 begin? Was it when the Archduke was assassinated, or when the countries started declaring war on each other, or when the first shot was fired?

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This year is the Centenary of WW1, and by coincidence I realised today was the day Britain declared war on Germany as I was reading the Wikipedia entry on the war.

Unlike WW2, which nearly everyone agreed started on 1 Sep 1939, there does not seem to be a definitive start date for WW1.

Brickie78

Or did WW2 start on 3 Sep, with the declaration of war by Britain and France? I've heard both arguments (plus less well-accepted ones like Barbarossa, Pearl Harbor and the start of Japan's invasion of China).

Wikipedia's WW1 article states with no caveats that the war started on 28 July, which is when Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia, which seems to have a good claim to be the "definitive start date". We in Britain are quite good at forgetting anyone except ourselves and Germany were involved, so we're acting like it's the official start of the war on 4 August.

Tricericon

Unlike WW2, which nearly everyone agreed started on 1 Sep 1939

Source for that?

My reason for asking is that in my personal experience it has been rare for anyone to suggest a date other than 7 July '37.