I have a couple questions about the israeli palestinian conflict. i am most definitely missing something here...
To my understanding the israelis were forced out of the Gaza Strip and West Bank (due to british mandate? (this is the part I'm unsure about)). After that, the palestinians came and took the refuged israelites' land and claimed it as there own, which is the basic reason as to why the conflict is still ongoing. Not trying to go deep into current details.
My questions are:
Why were the israelis run out of their homeland t begin with? (my suspected answer - british mandates of the west bank and gaza strip)
Where did the palestinians come from and why did they take the refugees land? (my suspected answer - i have none)
And in case anyone was wondering about my stance on the issue,
Zionists and orthodox jews are grudge holding and act violently and radically under their belief of the protection of the Torah and don't seem to understand 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Palestinians are wrong in that they took someone else's land like..finders keepers...wtf?
Please someone fill in my blank spaces :(
A good book on the subject
Book:The Unmaking of Israel
Author:Gershom Gorenberg
Length (kind of a deal breaker question for me): 250+ pages
He sees both sides of the story and recognizes that neither side is technically wrong or right either. He makes very good arguments for both sides, however i believe he's a more big picture thinker (not sure i haven't finished it yet!) Very interesting read! Book source: My Jewish studies class
I'm sorry, could you clarify the question? What time period are you talking about? And are you asking if anyone has read the book and can give you a review?
You seem to be pretty confused on a quite a bit, to the point that I'm having a hard time deciding if you're a troll or not.
You're asking where Palestinians came from? Well, they've merely lived there for a couple thousand years or so. Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD, then around 60 years later Jews were completely banned from living there by Hadrian. Arabs, and other peoples lived there for a minimum of 1750 years consecutively before any Jewish claims to the land were made. That's over 7 US histories in length, for point of reference. Then came the waves of Jewish immigrants in the last 100 years or so.
Palestinians are wrong in that they took someone else's land like..finders keepers...wtf?
Firstly, it's not nearly that simple, but if it were to be spelled out as close to black and white as possible, it would pretty much be the opposite. A very popular view is that Jews have been stealing Arab land for the last 100+ years. I'm not sure how you managed to think Palestinians took anyone's land. If you're going to get upset over Jews losing the Levant, look to the Romans circa 70 AD. Again though, it's not even remotely that simple.
The British Mandate didn't come close to what you're presuming. If anything, the mandate created Israel. It specifically designated a home for the Jewish people amongst the majority of Arab Palestinians.
You also don't seem to understand that Jewish refugee "land" wasn't in the middle east, they went to the middle east. Many Jewish refugees were displaced by Nazism in Europe, and fled to Palestine where they began to settle on Palestinian land. Again, this is the broadest simplification imaginable, but it's to point out how backward your thinking is.
Based on your comment: "Length (kind of a deal breaker question for me): 250+ pages" ...it seems as if you're not real into reading. That's going to be a pretty big problem, and could be why you've been so grossly miseducated.
On a related note, it's probably a good idea to refrain from forming opinions without being even remotely educated on the subject. I'm having a hard time imagining a more polarizing subject than Israeli-Palestinian relations, (maybe abortion) and you seem to be picking sides and acting as if your mind is made up having never finished an introductory book on the subject. For comparison sake, I've been studying Israeli and Middle Eastern history pretty extensively for months now, and I've only begun forming any opinions, and I doubt I'd ever "pick a side", or even begin to assume I've nailed down what the problem is.
Finish that book, and read a few more, then start forming an opinion. In the meantime, I wouldn't mention the word Israel or Palestine to people you want to respect you. If you began spouting what you "know" about the topic to me in person, I'd die of laughter, and judge you as a complete ignoramus. I don't mean any offense, but you're about as far off base as possible and you need to know that.
I hope your interest in the subject continues; there are few more fascinating or important topics in my opinion.
If you're not into reading, this won't even remotely help, but here's the shortest (and probably best) "book" you'll ever read on Israeli history, and it's conveniently in reddit format: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/23w18h/what_were_the_mechanisms_by_which_the_state_of/ch1kz8e