German reparations: Greece edition.

by Jack_Hawksmoor

As you probably know, a popular topic in Greece right now is the question of German reparations for WWII occupation - i.e. we don't owe you since you owe us first.

I am trying to find out more information about this, but a lot of articles on the Internet are filled with vitriol and many point to wikipedia.

Spiegel claims the debt is 162 billion Euros, but Greek media put it up to 760+ billion!

I am wondering about several things:

  1. What are the most accepted estimates of civilian/military deaths in Greece? What about demographic damage (lost generations) and economic? Is there a listing of forced loans?

Also if possible, how correct are statements that Greek treasury was specifically used to fund war in North Africa?

  1. What is the best and concise source for reparations? Many articles claim there were no reparations paid, however, this does not seem to take into account damages to victims of Nazi crimes.

  2. How did the process of forgiving/forgetting reparations go after Paris/London agreements? I am bit familiar with the process in Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia and they differed, were complicated and negotiations carried well into 1960is? Did the idea about reparations reappear after 1989 and the end of the Cold War as some articles claim?

  3. Additionally, what about Greek involvement in Barbarossa? Germans utilized troops from other puppet countries, I am curious about any Greek divisions.

Thank you in advance for your replies. I look forward to sources for further reading.

thedarkerside

Based on an interview in Deutschlandfunk, all claims against the re-united Germany were extinguished in the 2+4 talks. Meaning, as far as the legal interpretation goes, it seems Greece has no claims against Germany for this.

The Foreign Office has the contract available, including some explanations around it.

So much from a "legal standpoint" I guess, of course there is still an ethical question, though I cannot see Germany giving in on this, if they'd make an exception with Greece they'd have every other country in Europe banging at their door as well.