Netanyahu recently claimed that Hittler wished to expel the Jews and it was Haj Amin al-Husseini who persuaded him to exterminate them. Is there any evidence for this?

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Beansareno1

No. There have been books written about thesis (I don't remember the title at the moment) but it is completely bullshit. It is completely against any established Holocaust research.

And some other things, the mass murder of Jews started before Hitler met the Mufti and antisemitic violence was established in NSDAP, in written manner, as early as Mein Kampf was published (1924).

The Holocaust is generally thought of as a series of escalating stages, and the idea that Hitler met some, in the grand scheme of things, unimportant person and completely changed his stance on Jews (Antisemitism is THE only thing that really kept everyone in the NSDAP together) is quite frankly ridicilous.

The decision of other countries to stop taking in jewish refugees from Germany is certainly more important in the development of the Holocaust than what the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem said or didn't say.

Among those questioning Netanyahu’s interpretation of history was Prof Dan Michman, the head of the Institute of Holocaust Research at Bar-Ilan University and head of the International Institute for Holocaust Research at Yad Vashem. He said that while Hitler did indeed meet the mufti, this happened after the Final Solution began.

"Among those questioning Netanyahu’s interpretation of history was Prof Dan Michman, the head of the Institute of Holocaust Research at Bar-Ilan University and head of the International Institute for Holocaust Research at Yad Vashem. He said that while Hitler did indeed meet the mufti, this happened after the Final Solution began."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/netanyahu-under-fire-for-palestinian-grand-mufti-holocaust-claim

edit: It is the attempt at gaining political capital, nothing more, nothing else.

commiespaceinvader

The Mufti met Hitler in November 1941. By that time, the systematic murder of Jews by the Nazis had been underway in the Soviet Union since June 1941 for male Jews and since August 1941 for women and children. The Wehrmacht in Serbia had already begun executing the male Jewish population in hostage reprisal shootings. Around the time they met, the Sonderkommando Lange had begun construction of the Kulmhof extermination camp for the Jews of the Litzmannstadt Ghetto.

It is still unclear when the decision was made to systematically murder all of Europe's Jews, not just those of the Soviet Union, but most serious historians (e.g. Christopher Browning) will point to somewhere in October 1941; before Hussayni arrived in Germany.

We have the records of their meeting in November 1941. During their meeting, only one mention was made by Hitler that he was going to do away with the Jews in Palestine. With the Mufti having arrived in Germany just one month prior, it is highly unlikely that he at that time understood what Hitler meant. Later on, the Mufti certainly discovered that the Germans were murdering Jews systematically and he didn't object to it but he certainly didn't give them the idea.

The Mufti certainly didn't play a central role but was an convenient and at times annoying collaborator of tertiary importance to the Nazis.

The Mufti was also never sought by Nuremberg for prosecution. Several Zionist organizations wanted him to be tried there but the British deemed him not important enough. Also, the Yugoslavians wanted him tried, mainly for his role in recruiting the Handjar Division of the Waffen-SS but again, this was deemed not important enough for Nuremberg.

Sources:

  • Gensicke, Klaus (2011). The Mufti of Jerusalem and the Nazis: The Berlin Years. Vallentine Mitchell Publishers.

  • Achcar, Gilbert (2010). The Arabs and the Holocaust: The Arab-Israeli War of Narratives. Chastleton Travel.

  • Gerhard Höpp (Hrsg.) : Mufti-Papiere. Briefe, Memoranden, Reden und Aufrufe Amin al-Husainis aus dem Exil 1940–1945. Schwarz (Schiler), Berlin 2001.

zephyer19

I was watching "woman in the gold dress" and it showed some Jews applying to go to the US before the war started. The Germans refused to let them leave. Was this true and common?

I always wondered how things would of turned out if the US had offered to take any and all Jews.

Nobody_is_on_reddit

Doesn't this sub have a rule against entertaining revisionism?