Why were the armies in Twelfth United States Army Group of such different sizes?

by throwmewaya

According to wikipedia (sorry) the 1st army was 4 divisions, pattons 3rd army had 19 divisions, the 9th army had 16 and the 15th army had 9. Plus the corps sizes are all over the place. I was wondering why this was the case?

My understand, which could be very wrong, is with the British and Canadians generally 2 divisions make a corps, 2 corps make an army, and 2 armies make an army group.

the_howling_cow

During WWII, the United States generally had no fixed size for the number of divisions within a corps (as few as 2, as many as 6), or the number of corps within an Army. More corps arrived later on in order to manage the increasing number of divisions (eventually 42 infantry, 16 armored, and 4 airborne) that were in the ETO. Divisions were often moved between corps in order to give them more punching power for an attack, or to assign them to a quieter area where they could recuperate. When a corps boundary was moved, which happened quite often, the division that got "jumped" over was often just reassigned.

Corps were even moved between armies. As new corps moved up and were inserted into the line, more space was needed. Whole armies were even shifted; the Ninth Army initially moved up to the line in between First and Third Armies in September 1944, but was shifted to the very north of the American lines, abutting the British, in November.

These movements could also happen in the case of emergencies, such as during the Battle of the Bulge, where a frantic series of movements took place in the opening days of the battle. The US First and Ninth Armies were actually placed under administrative control of the British; the First Army until the Battle of the Bulge ended, and the Ninth Army until the British crossed the Weser River. This resulted in the 8th Infantry Division being by far the furthest north US unit, in the vicinity of Schwerin in far northeastern Germany when the war ended.

The US had the following army corps in the European Theater when the war ended:

V, VI, VII, VIII, XII, XIII, XV, XVI, XVIII Airborne, XIX, XX, XXI, XXIII

Let's take a look at General Joseph Lawton Collins' VIII Corps. It pinged around between the First, Third, and Ninth Armies during its service in the ETO.

VIII Corps was a part of the following armies while in the ETO:

Army Dates
First 15 June-31 July 1944
Third 1 August-4 September 1944
Ninth 5 September-21 October 1944
First 22 October-19 December 1944
Third 20 December 1944-21 April 1945
First 22 April-5 May 1945
Ninth 6-8 May 1945

At some point or another, all the following divisions were assigned to VIII Corps. I have just included the time that they were with VIII Corps and not noted the superordinate Army.

Division First Time Second Time Third Time Fourth Time Fifth Time
1st Infantry Division 27-28 April 1945
2nd Infantry Division 18 August-21 October 1944
4th Armored Division 22 January-8 March 44 15-31 July 1944 2-11 January 1945 4-8 April 1945 17-21 April 1945
4th Infantry Division 16-18 July 1944 7 December 1944 27 January-19 March 1945
6th Armored Division 8 February-3 March 44 25 July-19 September 1944 11 February-5 March 1945 17 April 1945-VE Day
8th Infantry Division 1 August-21 October 1944
10th Armored Division 17-19 December 1944
11th Armored Division 23-30 December 1944 15 January-11 March 1945
17th Airborne Division 1-25 January 1945
28th Infantry Division 19 November 1944-6 January 1945
29th Infantry Division 19 August-4 September 1944
65th Infantry Division 4-16 April 1945
76th Infantry Division 19-24 January 1945 22 April 1945-VE Day
79th Infantry Division 1-31 July 1944
82nd Airborne Division 19 February-12 March 1945 19 June-11 August 1944 17 December 1944
83rd Infantry Division 8 April-24 June 1944 15-31 July 1944 3 August-4 September 1944 11-21 October 1944 11 November 1944
87th Infantry Division 29 December 1944-13 January 1945 25 January 1945-VE Day
89th Infantry Division 23 March 1945-VE Day
90th Infantry Division 19 June-31 July 1944 26 January-11 March 1945
95th Infantry Division 29 January-12 February 1945
101st Airborne Division 15 June-11 August 1944 17-20 December 1944 29 December 1944-19 January 1945
106th Infantry Division 29 November-19 December 1944

Sources:

ETO Order of Battle- DIVISIONS

US Army in World War II, by Rich Anderson

RonPossible

Corps, Armies, and Army Groups, have no fixed organization. They are task organized depending on the situation, and changed as as the situation changes. This is true of British organizations as well as US.

You don't say which Wiki article you are looking at, but those numbers are only good for a very small timeframe in any case. For example, First Army had 15 divisions in 3 corps in December 1945, while Third Army had 16 divisions in 3 corps.

The idea that the the British used a 2-2-2 formation is wrong. For example, XXX Corps had 3 divisions (Guards Armoured Division, 43rd (Wessex) Infantry Division, 50th (Northumbrian) Infantry Division) plus an additional armoured brigade (8th) assigned to it during Market Garden, while the UK Second Army had 3 corps assigned (XXX, XII, and VIII). 21st Army Group had at least 4 armies assigned to it during the Battle of the Bulge, as the US First and Ninth Armies were temporarily attached.