"Operation Sealion was impossible."
"No, it wasn't! The British were in disarray after Dunkirk."
"But the Royal Navy was still in the way."
"If you go back, the Germans could've built a navy in time to pull off Sealion."
"The British would've responded to a naval buildup."
"No they wouldn't, you Anglophile!"
"Fascist!"
Hi, I'm /u/The_Alaskan. You may remember me from such posts as "Hey Comrade, Where's my Concorde?" and "Andrew Jackson's Amazing Swearing Parrot." Today, I'm here to talk about something else very important: Counterfactuals.
"Mr. McClure Alaskan, what's a counterfactual?"
Great question, Sally. "Counterfactual" comes from the Middle English word "counter," meaning "in opposition to" or "against" and the word "factual," meaning "factual."
In other words, it's a what-if question.
Have you ever wondered what the world might look like if you woke up on the opposite side of the bed or if you put your pants on left leg first instead of right leg first? Have you ever wondered what the world might look like if the Mulovskii expedition of 1787 had not been canceled by another Russo-Turkish War and had instead circumnavigated the world as planned?
Those are counterfactuals.
"Gee, Mr. The_Alaskan, that sounds complicated!"
There's where you're wrong, Sally. Counterfactuals are very easy. They require nothing but speculation, and that's why they're forbidden on /r/askhistorians along with all other types of speculation.
"But why?!"
History isn't a science, Sally. We can't suggest a hypothesis, then go out and test a historical theory in an experiment. We only have one Earth to examine, and we can't run it reverse, so we build history on rhetoric, data and logic, not with testing. History grows and develops through re-examination and reinterpretation of the data we already have.
That data might be buried in a lost archive or hidden in a dusty folder somewhere, but it already exists. We might apply a new analysis to it -- think of the recent surge in environmental history -- but we're still not creating new data. We're simply reinterpreting it.
That's why counterfactuals are, to borrow a word from British historian Edward Palmer Thompson, Geschichtswissenschlopff ─ "unhistorical shit."
Counterfactuals require us to create new data, new experiences. They're not history ─ they're fiction. Because of that, they don't fit in /r/askhistorians. As /u/restricteddata said in the last Rules Roundtable it takes a lot of work to get into the mind of a historical figure. Do that without care, and you're not doing history.
As Richard Evans (who /r/askhistorians loves to recommend for Hitler-related questions) said in 2014, "What if is a waste of time."
That isn't to say that what-if isn't fun. Harry Turtledove is a best-selling author because of it. S.M. Stirling, Eric Flint and Peter Tsouras have made reliable work of the what-if game. But if you look at their books, they're shelved in the fiction section, not the nonfiction section. Alternate histories tell a story. They don't tell the truth.
What's more, they can be endlessly debated without any hope of defining what "would happen." Hitler might stub his toe and change his mind about invading Greece. Aliens might decide to drop in during the middle of World War II.
The what-if game is just that ─ a game ─ and it doesn't belong on /r/askhistorians.
"Gee, Mr. Alaskan ... that's pretty mean."
Well, aren't you an uppity little rhetorical device. There's always /r/HistoryWhatIf for those urgent what-if questions. It's also important to note that the /r/askhistorians mods won't remove questions that imply a counterfactual, just those that state a counterfactual outright. It's also possible to answer some hypothetical questions (like "What would Nazi Germany have done if it defeated the Soviet Union") by referring to existing documents. Just be sure to be as specific as possible. If a question doesn't require a counterfactual to be answered wholly and completely, it'll likely stay.
Ah, I must disagree on some of this! Counterfactuals are essential to the work of actual history. We imply them all the time, whenever we talk about causality. If I say, "the Civil War was caused by slavery," then I am implying, to one degree or another, that if slavery hadn't existed, the Civil War wouldn't have happened. If I say, "Adolf Hitler was an important man," I'm implying history would have been different if he had winked out of existence while only a bad landscape painter. There is no sin in this — it is just how causality works.
Historians also love contingency. We love to show that things didn't have to be the way they were, that nothing was set in stone, that history isn't just a jumble of predictable forces but a lot of other things as well. We can't do that if we decide counterfactuals are a waste of time.
I would contend that the historian who rejects counterfactuals is actually in self-denial about their use of them. And of their value, but that's a separate issue.
In the hands of someone who is serious about history, a counterfactual can be illuminating. We are not talking about Harry Turtledove here. We are talking about nice, focused questions whose answers do not overstate their authoritativeness (for they are not) and are used to excavate aspects of the past that might not be obvious from the narrative of what did happen.
An example of mine that I like quite a bit: If Albert Einstein had never existed, would the atomic bomb have been invented during World War II? This superficially seems like a silly question to ask. But it's not. It's really a question about the specific importance of a historical figure (Einstein) and his work (relativity) towards the specific historical creation of nuclear weapons at a specific moment in history (World War II). In this sense it is actually quite focused.
Now one could answer this poorly, to be sure. The average person thinks Einstein's role was very important in the making of the bomb — E=mc^2 and the Einstein letter to Roosevelt are often given pride of place in the stories of the bomb. But this erroneous understanding is exactly what this question can help correct. It would not be controversial amongst historians of physics to assert that by 1939, the mass-energy relationship would probably have already been discovered via an alternative route (it is not so clever as many of the other aspects of Einstein's work, and in any case Einstein was more a creature of his era than we tend to acknowledge today, doing work that was not so different than the work of others at the time). (Historians of science generally do not ascribe to a model of "genius" that says that "without so-and-so, this idea would never have come about" — in some cases we can actually tell you who the candidate was for independent discovery, because they were working along exactly the same lines as the other person, and missed out by the smallest of margins.) And separately, the importance of the mass-energy equivalence with regards to the specific phenomena of nuclear fission is overstated, and the latter was not anything like a direct consequence of the former line of inquiry. This is a different scientific genealogy of the atomic bomb than the popular mind often has — it is a product of research into particle physics, not relativity.
And one can do similar things for the Einstein letter, etc. By pointing out why Einstein was not as important as we might think, we have an opportunity to point out what was important. The counterfactual has given us a nice "frame" to think through causality in history. This is not just a rhetorical device: this is because we are engaging explicitly with causality when we talk about counterfactuals, and not allowing ourselves to be sucked into the implicit causality of "what happened."
The problem with counterfactuals, of course, is that some are far too broad to be answered. What would global society look like today if World War II hadn't happened? Too broad — there are so many factors that would be modified if you took that big variable out of the equation. That doesn't mean you couldn't point to some of those factors (e.g., would decolonization have sped up or slowed down without the war?). But there is such a soup of them that it is difficult to even start to answer sensibly.
Second, to answer them well you really have to know your stuff, and you have to be aware of where you are really diverging from the script and where you are not. You have to couch everything in the language of uncertainty, to be sure. And the goal of the answer has to be to point out plausible roads not taken, not to give a definitive and authoritative answer of what would have happened. But just because the latter isn't possible, doesn't mean the questions — or their answers — can't be valuable and generative.
So I dispute that "what if" is just a game. It's much more than that! And real historians play it all the time, even if they aren't conscious that they are doing so. I don't think we need to be hard-ass about it here unless it gets very much out of control in terms of bad answers. But why regulate the questions themselves on this? Unless there is really a swamp of them, I don't think it's a dangerous thing to allow.
Real historians ask questions like this all the time, as do students, as do interested laymen. The problem with the Harry Turtledove style isn't the questions he asks, it's that the answers he gives aren't really meant to be history, they're meant to be elaborate works of fiction. But there are other approaches — don't throw out babies with our bathwater, unless the babies are really stinking up the tub.
Great question, Sally. "Counterfactual" comes from the Middle English word "counter," meaning "in opposition to" or "against" and the word "factual," meaning "factual."
Middle English? That's it? Nothing from Latin contra, or facere?
The erasure of Latin from English continues apace, I see. The barbarians have won.
On the flip side, bringing up alternate plans is highly important - any discussion around the use of atomic weapons in Japan is put into context by the estimates around the invasion and the fact the Japanese had more men and material in theatre than any Allied estimates.
Geschichtswissenschlopff ─ "unhistorical shit."
I love this sub. And apparently I love British historian Edward Palmer Thompson.