Question regarding Norman Knights gear (12th century)

by SirKillsalot

Hi all,

My question relates to a Norman Knights gear, specifically that of the Northern Europen variety (even more specifically those who would have invaded Ireland in the latter half of the 1100's)

Could someone give me an example of what would have been worn under the chainmail? I am assembling an outfit for re-enactment and it needs to be accurate. Looking around I have found http://www.gdfb.co.uk/gambeson-with-removable-sleeves-black-2698-p.asp items such as this but I do not know if it is period accurate, let alone made from accurate materials.

I have read that Gambesons came later in the Medieval period. If this is so, what was worn under chainmail to provide padding/cushioning?

Rittermeister

Hi there! If you are considering joining a reenacting unit, I cannot recommend strongly enough that you check with them regarding standards. What different organizations consider accurate can vary wildly, with some taking the "close enough" stance and others insisting on hand stitching and vegetable-dyed fabric and all that. I really don't want to be responsible for you buying something that turns out to be unusable, so if it's alright with you, I'm going to avoid commenting on any particular vendor's products and confine myself to the history.

The issue with gambesons is a lack of evidence for their existence in the early period rather than any evidence against their existence. There is a tantalizing Roman reference to a garment called a subarmalis, and we have quite clear artistic depictions of gambesons and aketons from the 13th century on, but not much in between. I think they probably wore them, but that can't really be substantiated. If they did, they would be of linen, wool, or leather, not cotton, as in the link you included.

Your stereotypical knight of the 12th century would have worn a knee-length mail coat, made from a mix of riveted and solid iron rings. Early in the century, three-quarter or full sleeves would have been common, while by the end of the century integrated mittens would be more the norm. A mail coiffe was probably integral to the hauberk as well. He probably, but not necessarily, wore mail leggings strapped on above the knees. The helmet would almost certainly be of the conical or round variety, with a pronounced nasal.