Did Hitler support the creation of a Zionist state as former London Mayor Ken Livingstone today claimed?

by TheAnimus

Based on the history I was taught at school, and this excellent post you guys had before it appears he is quite at odds with reality. I was wondering if someone qualified can debunk his latest bits today.

Here is a video where he claims Hitler directly intervened in the creation of Isreal.

EnochHereEnochThere

Zionist - a supporter of Zionism; a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel."

The Haavara Agreement was a deal made between Nazi Germany and the Zionist Federation of Germany, the deal allowed Jews who feared persecution to migrate to Palestine. The deal also allowed Jews to transfer their assets to British Mandatory Palestine.

One must take into account that Hitler did not allow them to leave for Palestine out of the goodness of his heart, it was almost certainly a way to get rid of Jews who were participating in the Anti-Nazi boycott of 1933, as this boycott was hurting the Germany economy.

So, to answer your question, no, Hitler was not a Zionist, he did, however, play a crucial, but unintentional, role in the creation of Israel by allowing Jews to move to British Palestine with their rather vast assets.

Hitler likely didn't support the idea of a Jewish state, he supported the idea of getting rid of 'troublesome' Jews.

Source: The Third Reich & the Palestine question

Salsa_Johnny

I perused the links, and think I have a basic understanding of the Haavarna Agreement. I'm curious about the other specific claims Livingstone makes and particularly their context. Specifically:

  1. There were SS training camps for German Jews immigrating to Mandatory Palestine to basically help acclimatize them.

  2. Nazi Germany was asked by some Zionist group to stop German Jewish sermons in Yiddish and require them to be in Hebrew, to which the Nazis agreed.

  3. Nazi Germany enacted a law allowing only the Nazi and Zionist flags to be flown (by German Jews?).

  4. Nazi Germany sold weapons (Mauser pistols?) to some underground Jewish army.

Searocksandtrees

Hi, I gather he's said something recently, so hopefully someone can drop by with an update, but meanwhile please start with this post from last year