Is this the final blow of the Afrocentric Interpretation of Ancient Egypt?

by thunderking500

the idea that the Ancient Egyptians resembled modern sub saharian Africans and those of Sub Saharian descent

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4555292/Study-mummies-reveals-Turkish-European.html

I understand that alot of this idea came about in the late 19th, early 20th century, propagated by those like Marcus Garvey, and I understand why it happened seeing as Black People have often had their history erased.

However, today their is no need to have such stories or beliefs. Most historians today do not accept the Afrocentric interpretation of Ancient Egyptians but many in the African American community today still hold on to these beliefs

is this the final nail in the coffin?

Alexandhisdroogs

I just want to clarify what the study actually found, since the Daily Mail does a poor job of that.

  • All samples are from a single location near Al Fayyum by the lower Nile. They are NOT representative of all Egypt, specially not southern Egypt where you'd expect to find more black African admixture.

  • The period covers 1388 BC to 426 AD, so it doesn't address the two millennia of prior history.

  • There were only 3 samples for whole genome sequencing. An additional 90 samples were available for mitochondrial DNA only.

  • The big stress in all the headlines is "more like Europeans than Africans". But if you actually look at the PCA diagram, the closest affinity of ancient Egyptians was to the near east (Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Saudi Arabia). Next closest is to northern African populations (Algerian, Bedouin, Druze, Moroccan, Tunisian). What they call "European" is actually quite far off, and not quite European as most people understand the term. They mean Anatolian, Iranian, Kumyk, Chechen, Ossetian, and then Russian and Armenian. This is a LONG stretch on the PCA diagram, much more distant than the Levant.

  • There is no mention of Turkey anywhere. They clearly say Anatolian.

  • They specifically DENY that this study indicates any discontinuity between ancient and modern Egyptian populations. It's not like ancient Egyptians were replaced by modern Egyptians. It's just that a sub-Saharan admixture was ADDED to ancient Egypt, producing the modern population. The extent of this admixture is 8 to 20 percent, and the median date is about 750 years ago. This probably represents the slave trade during Islamic rule, when about 6-7 million sub-Saharan Africans were brought to north Africa over a period of 1,200 years.

So what the study shows is that there was about 8-20 percent less sub-Saharan admixture than at present. At this one location in northern Egypt, from about 1,400 BC to 400 AD. And that when you remove this admixture, the northern Egyptian population looks quite similar to Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and northern African populations from Algeria to Morocco.

GhostlyChipmunk

So they study says the ancient Egyptians were European and "Turkish." They should probably look over the terminology as I believe "Anatolian" would be a better word. The Turks didn't arrive until around the 13th century I believe.