Do we know what conversation topics were common amongst people living in 17th-18th century Europe?

by shamwu

Today, it seems like much of the topics that bond us together are relatively modern: television shows, sports, world events, etc. If I were a person sitting down in a pub or meeting someone in a public place, what would we talk about to establish rapport?

As a corollary, is the premise of my question fundamentally flawed? Was rapport not necessary until cities became large and the number of strangers interacting grew exponentially?

caffarelli

Oddly I am getting a lot of primary-source milage out of old etiquette books these days in AskHistorians! But etiquette books, or courtesy books as they are sometimes called for these periods, are a great way to tackle this question, because a lot of them have a lot to say about the proper modes of social intercorſe and what one should and should not be talking about. However, they have two drawbacks: one, they are written from the literate to the literate, so they are only a good record for rich people; and two, they tend to focus on the BAD topics of conversation, and leave the right topics to your own process of deduction I suppose. But here are some things people had to say from these books:

Now, we must also think a bit sideways here, which is that if someone takes the time to print up a treatise on things he doesn’t like people talking about, that probably means… people were doing them! So people living around these book-writing stick-butts probably spent a lot of time talking about:

  • Sex stuff
  • Just general undefined swearing and taking the Lord’s name in vain
  • Long winded and unfunny stories
  • Gossip
  • Laughing at their own jokes
  • Arguing about religion, mentioning atheism
  • Politics
  • Bodily functions of all sorts
  • Eating
  • Inappropriate jokes
  • Women just talk too much in general

On the positive note, from courtesy books we can infer that some proper and approved things to talk about would have been:

  • General educational matters, books you have read, books you would like to read, art, history. These courtesy books hammer time and time again on the importance of being well-read to being a cool and classy person, so presumably you were supposed to demonstrate your literate classiness by talking about books
  • Current events, newspapers existed at this time
  • Music, events you have attended or would like to attend in that vein, if you played an instrument or sang
  • Things that are happening in your life, birth, marriage, death, you saw a flipped over turtle in the road on Sunday, whatever
  • Mutual acquaintances and the things that are happening in their lives
  • Religion, if you are not arguing or taking the Lord’s name in vain (or anyone is an atheist I guess)
  • Whatever interests the two or more people in a group find themselves sharing!

So nothing like our conversation today. :)