Is there any truth to the notion that North Americans Natives tribes's war were not "deadly" before European contact ?

by ImWatchingUSleep

Hi r/askHistorians,

I am from Canada and I often hear about how the conflicts between Natives were not really deadly before the arrival of the first Europeans, that the concept of killing your enemies came from the white men. It is often said more specifically that the First People would mostly just "skirmish" between each other when there was a conflict, almost just as sport, and that this is why a lot of tribes used clubs and other non-lethal weapons.

Is there any truth to that notion ? I know that the trade fur and the involvement of the tribes between the conflicts of the Europeans increased the wars fought between tribes, but to say that Natives never killed each other before that ...

Oh, also, when saying North America, I really mean Canada and USA. I know a bit about Aztec and Mesoamerican history and I know there was a lot of killing there.

Lumencontego

Sounds like an exaggeration of the Great Plains tradition of "Counting Coup". Key to a man's success in Plains combat was demonstrating his own courage by proving superiority over his opponent and, in a competitive sense, over his own comrades. Killing was part of war, but showing courage in the process was more important for individual status. This was best accomplished by risking one's life in charging the enemy on foot or horseback to get close enough to touch or strike him with the hand, a weapon, or a "coupstick." Humiliating the enemy also played a part in this fighting, as illustrated by an account from the Jesuit missionary Father Pierre-Jean De Smet. In De Smet's 1848 visit to the Oglala Lakotas, the Oglala leader Red Fish related to the priest how his men had just suffered a disgraceful defeat at the hands of the Crows. The Crows killed ten Oglalas, then chased the others for a distance. The Crows then were content merely to repeatedly count coup on their enemies with clubs and sticks, thus demonstrating to the Oglalas that they were not worth the ammunition needed to kill them.

This is where you see the non-leathal weapons, and idea that fighting wasn't only about killing.