Why build the massive Wyoming and other 5 masted Schooners when metal hulls and steam propulsion were becoming widely adopted?

by socrates28

So I notice that the Clipper was used very far into the 19th c. but I stumbled upon the Wyoming a massive 6 masted wooden schooner that due to hogging and sagging required a pump to keep its hold water-free. And I am just curious as to what was the impetus that led to these gigantic ships being built in the 20th c. when metal hulls, steam engines and so forth was becoming the norm?

I admit I am no naval historian, but I do find it all very interesting and perhaps it will lead me to a deeper understanding of late 19th c. and early 20th c. shipping and maritime design considerations.

Also secondary question in light of these flaws regarding the Wyoming (i.e. pumps) was there ever a similar concern with Ships of the Line? In that they recognized that at some point these Ships of the Line could only get so big that at some point (until the advent of metal/ironclad hulls and steam propulsion) all navies of the world would reach the maximum for wooden hull constructions.

(feel free to ignore this part) Also I know this is a bit off topic, and a bit too broad of a scope for this, but how would the proposed Tessarakonteres with its supposed hull of 130 m compare with the Wyoming's 140 m hull length?

Bodark43

For why, there's first the accessible technology: the Bath ME boatyard that built her in 1909 had a very longstanding and deep fund of expertise, equipment and materials to built what was essentially a very big wooden boat- shaping timbers, shaping planking, fastening, caulking, etc. . A steel hull required working in a completely different way: bending heavy plates, riveting them. Notice that the boatyard had tried to modernize in a couple of important ways, though: it used some iron for internal bracing, thus making the hull stiffer ( because they must have realized that hogging would be a bigger problem for such a big ship) and they equipped it with steam engines ( often called donkey engines) to operate the sail rig. This last is quite important: to get the maximum speeds, schooners ( like most sailboats) needed a lot of management of the sail rig and that had been labor intensive, even labor-destructive: men on a slippery wet deck hauling on lines to move heavy wet canvas in a high wind would often be hurt, frozen in very cold weather, and could also be lost overboard working in heavy seas out on a bowsprit. Having a donkey engine to actually do a lot of that heavy hauling was a great step forward. I have not dug deep into the specifics, but possibly the shipyard didn't quite manage to anticipate the high loading of the hull in a big storm, how much the planking would spring and allow water past the caulking. It may also have failed to anticipate the effect of the high freeboard- the more the boat sticks out of the water, the more the hull acts like a sail; and a sail that can't be furled. Having a sail that can't be furled while being near a lee shore in a very strong gale means the boat is liable to be driven onto the land, anchor or no anchor. At the least, it greatly complicates managing the boat.

The architects may have been working at the edge of their knowledge, but were not too far wrong about the economics. It seems to have been a reasonably profitable ship, making decent money from its launch in 1909 to its wreck in 1924. And they knew that the return on a sailboat hauling bulk goods might be reasonable: remember, a boat is an extremely efficient way to move heavy things: a canal boat laden with several tons of crushed stone could be powered by a single mule. The trade off is speed. As the hull is pushed faster and faster, the amount of energy required grows very quickly. A sailboat didn't require buying coal for propulsion, and if the cost of the crew was reduced by adding a donkey engine ( or two) and the cargo was not time-sensitive ( hauling gravel, say, and not people or bananas) a slower speed and longer transit time was not a great problem. Smaller sailboats would continue to operate at a modest profit well into the 20th c., when they would often be fitted with small hit-and-miss gasoline engines that gave them some useful added mobility in port and in dead calms. And compared with the modest cost and modest returns of a small sailing ship, the extremely high-cost ocean liners, burning vast amounts of coal to make rapid Atlantic crossings, seem to be the dangerously extravagant ships- and they would also become economically impossible.

I'm not sure about how the RN viewed wooden ships vs steel for strength, but of course it would have been going to shell-resistant ironclads far earlier, circa 1855, and by 1909 would have iron and steel battleships: and as speed was always of the essence, would have adopted steam propulsion earlier as well..

A delightful account of being a lowly crewman on one of the last long-distance cargo sail ships is Eric Newby's 1956 The Last Grain Race- and yes, that's Eric Newby the famous travel writer. A good account of the business of sailing a modest little cargo ship around the coast of England in the last days of sail is the memoir of WJ Slade, : Out of Appledore