Hello everyone! Quick announcement!
Over the next few weeks, we're going to be testing out something new. In the past, we have considered having a stickied post by Automod in every thread with a brief reminder about the rules, but have always ended up deciding against the idea, for various reasons. One of the big ones has been concern about it becoming a de facto "Off-topic chatter and speculation goes here!" comment chain, which we are very much against. We currently post those kinds of things manually in particularly active threads, and it often ends up being the case, but we can remove them quickly since we always know when there is a reply to ourselves of course.
In more recent evaluation though, we have been reconsidering the pragmatic balance there, and then earlier this month, the Admins plopped a nice little gift in our lap, the ability to lock specific comments to replies! It has to be done manually right now (please, /u/sodypop, add that as an Automod condition!), but it is a big step in the right direction, and enough of a change that we're going to give it a try.
The hope is that, especially for mobile users unfamiliar with the subreddit, it will offer a somewhat better on-boarding experience by seeing a brief explanation about the community and the rules, something which isn't intuitive with Mobile Web or App viewing. This is only a test though, so we can evaluate both the specifics of the message, as well as more broadly the impact of the change. We can't do true A/B testing, but you will find that using super secret techniques the message will only be showing up on roughly 50 percent of posts, as we want to get a sense of the impact.
Additionally, please leave any feedback you might have on the test in this thread!
One issue I foresee with this is that not every thread is necessarily a question (case in point: this one). If/when comment locking can be automated, you could probably remove the "please do not respond" paragraph too.
Also the comment takes up half a screen on my phone, which kind of sucks, but hey.
Thank you for including the Remind Me Bot link. I will definitely enjoy using it for as long as this automod lasts.
This is fucking great. Just used it a couple days ago for a thread I was interested in reading and I just got the reminder and not one hour ago, a fantastic comment was left on the thread. One of the biggest annoyances about reading this sub is that you see a question youre interested in and it has no responses. As a casual broswer of the sub I can say that thanks to having an easy link to remindmebot, i'm probably going to enjoy reading it ten times more
Some posts certainly require an automated message, especially questions regarding more popular topics. However, it’s very depressing to see a well worded question in an obscure topic with no replies and an auto mod message. Kind of like beating a dead horse maybe?
That's probably a good idea, definitely if you can lock comments on the automod's thread.
I really don't like this experiment. I click into questions that look interesting if they have a reply. Now I wait automatically for more than one reply, but since this message doesn't consistently appear, I suspect that I may be missing answers. I also suspect that most people will simply look at this response as more of life's clutter that one has to get through in order to reach the information that we really want. I know I do.
Even though I will most likely never comment, I would still like to be able to read others' comments.
I'm finding the test message a bit annoying; although it's perhaps anyway intended for people who ask only occasional questions or are new to the sub, I can't see what value it really adds. People who don't read FAQ/sidebar posts probably won't read AutoMod stickies, and those who do will already be aware of the links?
Great automessage! Thanks
Good idea. I’m a fan and it addresses several issues.
Good robot. Robot deserves pats
Test received and passed
The testing message was the only comment I could see on a post I just tried to look at. I’m on mobile and the post said that there were 7 comments, but there was only the reminder. I’m not sure if anyone else is having this issue
I'm curious how this experiment is going. Are you finding fewer low effort answers? It looks like you've moved to posting every thread now, instead of the pseudo A/B testing.
I was wondering if something along the lines of "Due to reddit architecture, the comment count differs from the number of visible comments" might also help? I'm not sure how many of the comments are thinking that there's a problem with the thread/reddit/something since the removed comments still count in the total comment count, but I assume it's a decent number on popular threads.
I'll second /u/axiompenguin/ in that you should probably add something about the comment number not matching the visible comments because of comments being removed and the way reddit displays stuff - I think you have something like that in the standard stickied comment for questions that are getting a lot of attention, but it might help to have that reminder in the automod comment too. there's already something there about having patience, so it would fit, and might help some confused new people (I have been that person, this sub was how I discovered reddit!). it might mean you have less "why the hell can't I see the answers??" comments, although maybe you don't get that many of those, what do I know.
also, why is "question" italicised in the second paragraph? it reads weird, makes the tone snippy and a little hostile.
I just wanted to say that despite how frustrating it is seeing a super interesting question go unanswered, (maybe only temporarily--and perhaps i should use the remindme bot), I truly appreciate the high level of quality control employed here. This is one of the few no-nonsense subs, and when we are gifted with an excellent response, it is completely worth the wait. Mods, keep doing your thing <3
Thanks for this
The lock stops me from seeing responses to a question I found intriguing. It would make more since to put the lock and notification on the reply button, since that is what the notification is about
Ok
Thanks remind me bot
I do find it useful, specially for topics that could help me in the future.
For example, I'll stumble upon a thread that could help with some paper I'll need to write but isn't top priority right now. I can set a reminder to go back to it at time when I'll need it and in that way make sure I don't forget it exist or just make it impossible to find if I don't save it (and even then I could forget it's there).
I would never use someones words/personal opinion for my paper but people tend to link important stuff and it could be a great helping tool.
For what purpose? To decrease the noise? It seems to add more noise to the threads. Why not just pm the person like some subs do instead of posting on the thread? Like someone else said, I click on answers that have replies and as a somewhat new user to this sub, I'm disappointed when I open a new thread and see '1 comment' and it's some stupid autobot.
My questions was about the destruction of native American culture. I guess the difference between an "is" and a "were" in my title tipped a trigger of some kind. It's a good question, had upvotes, and asks how natives were affected by events from hundreds of years ago to decades ago to, yes, some things now. It's a broad question, but I felt it was relevant.
Just automodding this doesn't help me rephrase anything either. So I would really love an answer, but I have no idea how to proceed.
Have you considered putting a link to the comment helper extension in the automod message?
The link for remind me bot says user invalid. Specifically on the recent Britain royalty and German influences on the Hanoverian rulers
Thank you.
Thank you
Ok
I am not on facebook nor twitter
I will look in the sunday digest thing and revisit my post
So the email and text and the whole page are phony? It's a test ? How do I know if something I receive is legitimate?
Is it just me, or does remind bot not work for me?
The bot appears on every submission and is created by AutoModerator. Make a custom user account for this message, so I can report/block it and never see it again.
Also, the bot asks to 'read our rules' before contributing. The rules are 5,500 words long. Is this as optimized as possible?
Thank. posted a post without having read your rules. Sorry if something broke.
Ok. It does seem to be every question though, but it is what it is (unless it’s something else..)
There was nothing ‘unclear’ anywhere.. I don’t believe that I said there was. I was merely asking where I might find the answers, tas in the replies, to the questions in this forum. Perhaps it was I who was unclear.
Where are the replies to the questions? All I’m seeing is this message. Apologies if I’m being thick; I’m new here and don’t know my way around..
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I just wanted to say I don't like the reminders on threads. It's a big disappointment to click a thread with a response and have it be an autobot. It's an even greater disappointment than clicking a thread with multiple comments and seeing they were all deleted for rule violations.
Even with the rules reminder bot people still regularly break the rules so it seems like the only thing it does is spoil posts that haven't been spoiled yet.
Ok so I'm like 100% new around here, but I have a few thoughts I feel like adding. If someone likes my opinions cool. If not well it's your subreddit not mine, but I just want to be clear these are only my opinions.
It says "Please be sure to Read Our Rules before you contribute to this community." but I just posted a question, meaning I already contributed before I saw this message for the first time. I don't know that much of how Reddit works, but can you just have the bot send a PM to a user when they join the subreddit? I feel like "before you contribute" would apply more to someone who hasn't made a post yet.
I'm torn between it doesn't mention the FAQ and it already seems too long to me. Though I suppose a simple FAQ link wouldn't take up much space in the "In the meantime, our Twitter, Facebook, and Sunday Digest feature excellent content that has already been written!" part.
If a bot can send a PM to a user after they make their first post in the subreddit, I would prefer that over a public message in the thread. Is it really necessary to make it look like someone has a reply when they don't just so everyone can see they're new? Not that I feel any need to put a sticky comment on someone's thread just because they're new. Feels more like a newbie bandage of shame than something useful.