Friday Free-for-All | July 26, 2019

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You know the drill: this is the thread for all your history-related outpourings that are not necessarily questions. Minor questions that you feel don't need or merit their own threads are welcome too. Discovered a great new book, documentary, article or blog? Has your Ph.D. application been successful? Have you made an archaeological discovery in your back yard? Did you find an anecdote about the Doge of Venice telling a joke to Michel Foucault? Tell us all about it.

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khosikulu

I'm still in England, combing archives. Thank God for the National Archives's awesome air conditioning yesterday, arguably the hottest day in the entire history of the United Kingdom by 0.2 Celsius.

A few weeks ago, I discovered--and settled--a coverup that's been misinforming the public and then historians of the South African War (1899-1902) for nearly 120 years. It involved the secret purchase of maps of the Transvaal and the fabrication of a story of seizure so that the involvement of British consuls and secret intelligence within Europe--the map printer was there, though the cartographer lived in Pretoria--would not become public. They spun the lie to the Royal Commission on the war, and with good reason, because the Germans and the French were convinced that the British had done something underhanded to get a hold of the maps a year before it was on the open market. In fact, the contract that British Intelligence signed with the printer prohibited them from printing any more copies until the War Office declared that the war was effectively over (which they did in mid-1900, underestimating the next two years).

It left my head spinning. Now I have to find out just how far their dragnet for information actually went. Did they block or buy out anything else? The records are mostly gone, and it was sheer luck that this stuff survived. It's going to be quite an article, I think.

Goiyon

One of the things I'm curious about is what some of you personally experience as the most widespread bit of misinformation where it concerns your area of expertise?

An example would be that in my area of interest (a bit hesitant to call it expertise in my case). the low countries in the middle ages, is that there is this perception that the basis of the modern day Netherlands was laid solely in the early modern period during and after the Dutch Revolt, whereas the entire framework of the provinces had its foundation in the high and late middle ages.

Platypuskeeper

I visited the 17th century manor Östermalma today, which provided today's depressing sight There's not a lot of damage more depressing than that caused by incompetently done repairs. But I thought I'd share it as a 'teaching moment' because the image makes a very clear example of the mistake.

The mistake being: Never, ever use concretecement-based render on old brick! It is much stiffer, stronger and harder than the brick itself is. So when the bricks then expand and contract with temperature, moisture and settling, the surface of the brick is held solidly - too solidly - in place by the cement as the rest of the brick moves. As a result, the surface of the brick is broken off by the shear forces. The ground here was littered with chunks of concrete+brick surface.

This particular case is a good illustration because you can see there are no spots at all where the render has fallen off and left the surface of the brick unscathed. There are only bricks with broken off surfaces and spots where the render is still there. At the same time you see the surrounding rock areas are undamaged because the rocks are harder than the concrete, and don't move as much as brick does.

On a happier note, I met this moose so it was far from being all bad.

(EDIT; Meant to write Portland cement-based render rather than 'concrete'; that includes but is not limited to concrete.)

Zeuvembie

So, just to throw this out there but at the time I write this the sidebar says AskHistorians has 994,492 readers. Do y'all have anything planned for when the sub hits seven figures?

Cobra_D

What are some recommended textbooks for teaching the history of modern Europe (say 1789-now)?

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Your Weekly /r/askhistorians Recap

Friday, July 19 - Thursday, July 25

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In modern strategy games, it is easy to see if you are winning or losing a battle, because the game simply tells you. But how did foot soldiers and officers discern victory and defeat during the heat of battle? How did they evaluate if they should retreat or stand their ground? 3,333 108 comments
When ex-Nazi scientists were brought to the United States, how were they received by the Jewish scientific community who had recently fled from Nazi Germany? 2,886 73 comments
How did banks/banking families in the early modern period (Medicis, Fuggers, Genoese, etc) withstand the huge financial shocks when European monarchies regularly defaulted on huge loans they had taken out? 2,774 59 comments
I'm a European woman in the middle ages preparing for childbirth. What am I doing to ensure that I and my baby survive and live healthy lives? 2,751 119 comments
In World War II a third of Native American men aged 18-35 served, with some tribes seeing 70% of that population go join the armed forces. How did this compare to Native Americans serving during World War I, the Spanish-American War or any of America's expeditions after the end of the "Indian Wars" 2,440 37 comments
What is currently the most accepted theory among scholars regarding the origins of the Etruscans? An ancient civilization in central Italy which spoke a non-Indo-European language. 2,281 91 comments
Why do so many Ancient Greek statues have their penises removed? 2,179 137 comments
The Communist Party in Germany claimed that the Social Democrats were 'twins' and 'the main pillar' of Fascism. Even till 1935 - refusing to work together and saying that the 'fight against Fascism must be fought against Social Democracy'. How fatal was this? How did later communists comment? 2,036 72 comments
We hear a lot about allied intelligence from WWII really fooling a lot of German plans. Are there examples of German intelligence doing the same? 1,889 63 comments
How did monarchies handle having twins as heirs to the throne? 1,783 26 comments

 

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Typically, if an ancient statue's penis is missing, you can usually blame earthquakes and/or late antique Christians. To begin with the former. Athens, like many other Mediterranean cities, is pron... 1,433
I have an [earlier answer about the experience of pregnancy in medieval](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/5dnhci/lets_say_im_an_upper_class_woman_in_high_middle/da6megx/&#41... 1,414
During the Napoleonic Wars, there were three main factors that helped armies determine if the day had gone against them: the presence of strong forces in reserve, the safety of the line of retreat, an... 1,136
The current academic consensus, at least as of a few years ago (when my reference books were published) is that the Etruscans were indigenous Italians, whose culture evolved organically from V... 975
Okay, so I don't know the answer off the top of my head when it comes to Jewish scientists and I don't really have time to research it, but I figured that when it comes specifically to rockets and v... 888
This may be a bit early for you but I wrote an earlier [post](https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/8mfhws/why_did_florentine_banks_take_such_a_huge_risk_in/dznli0j/) on Ital... 778
There is always more to be said, but you may be interested in /u/Welfontheshelf's response to [How did medieval European monarchs handle twins?](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comm... 727
This is a really fascinating question, and I’m not sure how far I’ll be able to do justice to it. My interest here is much more in the history of opposition to fascism – that is, why do efforts to opp... 628
*I have an earlier answer focusing on [vision problems in the Middle Ages and how people coped with them](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/8cvbs2/how_did_humans_cope_with_po... 599
One example of the German intelligence services confusing their Allied counterparts was the 'Englandspiel' (England Game), also known as Operation North Pole, which affected British operations... 598

 

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Inburrito

If Julius Caesar was such a political genius, how did allow himself to be assassinated?

Wouldn’t he have had bodyguards? It’s not as if assassination wasn’t a tangible threat (Tiberius Gracchus, Lucius Saturninus, etc.).

GarageHouse94

What's the most interesting historical fact you learned recently?