Italian officers ww2

by josephswollin

So I was watching a video about the battles in Africa during world war 2 and in it Rommel was quoted to say that the Italian soldiers under his command were “good soldiers but had bad officers” so which of the Italian officers were not corrupt and bad at their job?

Woodstovia

This might not what you're looking for but the concept of Italian generals being incompetent and inferior to Rommel should be questioned before taking Rommel's word for it.

Italy faced many problems during WW2 and it isn't fair to portray them as the greatest military nation ever but proper context should be given as to why this was the case. The Italian state itself lacked the industrial development of larger European countries, furthermore, the Fascist party distrusted foreign countries and pursued a policy of self-sufficiency with the goal of making Italy completely self-reliant. At the same time Italy was pouring large amounts of resources and men into the Spanish civil war, and massively enlarging its army which it planned to be ready in 1942. The Italian army was organized into a binary system where their divisions were smaller which reduced flexibility and combat ability. Moreover, the Italian country was poor and lacked a large middle class to recruit officers from, so existing officers were stretched thin. Finally, Italian equipment just wasn't as good as equipment from other nations.

Many Italian failures simply weren't down to incompetent generals. The disaster of Operation Compass is often pinned on Graziani who was portrayed as an ignoramous, yet Graziani was forced into invading Egypt by Mussolini, with Graziani protesting the decision. Graziani's army was incredibly poorly trained and had no motorization which is why so many Italian prisoners were taken - they simply couldn't outrun the British who actually had mechanised transportation.

By this point the Italian army was widely discredited and Rommel repeatedly blamed the Italians for his problems, and claimed a racial "Latin nervousness" when Italian generals urged caution. Throughout the North Africa campaign, we have ample evidence of Italian generals giving Rommel correct advice and even covering for his blunders. During the Siege of Tobruk for example Rommel dismissed Italian reports of a British offensive and wanted to spread his tank division around Tobruk, he was talked out of this by the Italians who set their divisions to defend against the offensive. When the British attacked Rommel went missing for 4 days and Italian generals along with Rommel's subordinates took charge and repulsed the attack.

It's also important to note that the Italian troops disgraced in Operation Compass and the Italian troops who fought with Rommel were very different - the latter were experienced, well trained, and well equipped, however, their improved performance is often linked with Rommel's arrival.

Rommel was also influenced by a Nazi regime which was deeply distrustful of the Italians, and Rommel refused to give Italian troops supplies while he took Italian supplies for his German forces. There may also be a racial element at play, Italians and Mediterraneans were considered below Aryans in Nazi racial propaganda and even some British believed that the Germans and British were equal racially whereas the Italians and British were not.

This isn't to say the Italians were brilliant, they were ignorant and dismissive of mechanised and tank warfare, and were often engaged in political feuds which hampered operations. But the Italian officers in North Africa were generally experienced and competent.

Sources:

Of Myths and Men: Rommel and the Italians in North Africa, 1940-1942 - JJ Sadkovich

Hitler's Italian Allies - MacGregor Knox

The Italian Army in the Second World War: A Historiographical Analysis - Simon Gonsalves

Dusk3478

That's actually another myth and misinformation that seeped and passed through, not only the italian commanders in North Africa were ones of the many to partecipate in the large party of carriers of Rommel the troublemaker, but they were arguably one of the main heavy lifters of it and of him, and despite being the sole reason and liability why Hitler sent german forces in the theater (helping and saving the italians from the imminent defeat lol, so yeah, Rommel's weight alone on their future loss - especially when the situation could have been stabilized for the Axis after certain impactful victories - , aside their own direct competence and deeds there, made a huge turnaround of the whole situation and responsibility of the whole Italy lol, sheesh). German forces in Africa with of course Rommel as one of the cogs, instead of fighting on the Eastern Front (that would have been interesting, and for both alternative scenarios of those two fronts).

Of the luxuries and advantages that Rommel had, the italians gave him the code-breaking for that superior recon and awareness, they, like his german superior commander-line in charge of him, told and advised him of stay put, follow the order/strategy/plan and not suicide, accepted getting disrespected and even robbed, they covered for him and battled for him, yet the woe was created and the whole North Africa, barely kept despite Rommel's effort and damage, was finally lost (but especially their armies were finally damaged), after two decisive defeats.

And, of course, already the german forces took a huge hit, but especially the italian ones, both the great and praised units of italian soldiers but obviously those same better italian commanders too.