Friday Free-for-All | September 17, 2021

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You know the drill: this is the thread for all your history-related outpourings that are not necessarily questions. Minor questions that you feel don't need or merit their own threads are welcome too. Discovered a great new book, documentary, article or blog? Has your Ph.D. application been successful? Have you made an archaeological discovery in your back yard? Did you find an anecdote about the Doge of Venice telling a joke to Michel Foucault? Tell us all about it.

As usual, moderation in this thread will be relatively non-existent -- jokes, anecdotes and light-hearted banter are welcome.

Bodark43

I was at Antietam Battlefield last week. There were two volunteer interpreters stationed at the Burnside Bridge, one at the overlook, one down at the bridge. Not many visitors, despite great weather, and so I could have a long conversation with one of them. I discovered that he could talk about more than just tactics and maneuvers. He'd thought about Ethan Rafuse's idea that McClellan's Whig loyalties played a part in his reluctance to attack the Confederate army, that McClellan thought there'd be some sort of compromise worked out with the South and the war would be stopped, so bloodshed should be minimized. And he could talk about the divided loyalties of Maryland. He was trying to stay neutral on the subject of Confederate statues; I think the Park Service may have told their docents to keep clear of it, and I am not surprised, as , judging from the T-shirts, I'd say at least a quarter of the visitors would have liked Lee to stay put on his horse down in Richmond.

He was , he said, very grateful for the nice weather: August had been, he said, especially brutal. Especially having to wear a mask. Clearly, he loved his subject and was willing to put up with a lot of discomfort to talk about it. He also seemed to be retired and so could spend the time. As most of the news now seems to be coverage of the International Festival of Ignorance, it gave me a bit of a lift to meet someone who was making an honest effort to think.

fly_shit_only

It’s been a year since I quit smoking. Had my first craving in a while and it was in a dream. Then I got thinking about it. Were people addicted to tobacco when it first came around? Sent me down in a Reddit hole where I read some very cool threads on the history of smoking tobacco. But then I realized that wow, this dude steals some seeds from indians, it becomes an essential part of colonialism and 400 years later a billion people in the world are addicted to cigarettes that are killing them and its an industry worth a trillion dollars worldwide.

I’m also looking for a personal book recommendation. I dropped out of school a year ago, haven’t read one since and was thinking it might be good for me. I was going to be a history major. The main thing I might be looking for is something in the vein of my interest in smoking and tobacco. Meaning maybe that directly but like maybe also akin to that in spirit where some sort of concept or idea led to this and that and is now a part of our modern day life. Things I’ve read and liked. I’ve read Guns, Germs and Steel and enjoyed that. Read Under the Banner of Heaven and would be fascinated to read more about Mormonism and especially the era of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. But at the same time I’m not much of a pure biography person. Very interested in Israeli history and Zionism. Interested in Native American history. Also read this document for class once about the CIA coup in Iran and a book on American intervention in foreign govs would be cool.

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Your Weekly /r/askhistorians Recap

Friday, September 10 - Thursday, September 16

###Top 10 Posts

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3,196 55 comments As hosts of the 1980 Summer Olympics, the USSR was invited to host that year's Paralympics. In response, they issued a statement denying the existence of any disabled people in the country (and hence the lack of disability sports). Why did the Soviet government state such a ridiculous claim?
2,997 25 comments Is moving out at 18 an artifact of World War II?
2,659 19 comments At he time of its publication (1924), was the twist in "The Most Dangerous Game" considered shocking/surprising?
2,584 279 comments [Meta] Megathread: A brief history of September 11th, 2001 and a dedicated thread for your 9/11 questions
2,381 27 comments Wikipedia's article on US Civil War prison camps has a pretty disturbing picture of an almost literally skeletal but apparently still living survivor of one. Is the identity of this particular soldier known? What happened to him?
2,365 14 comments The 1893 Sherlock Holmes story “The Adventure of the Yellow Face” depicts an interracial relationship and a mixed-race child with what seems like astonishing open-mindedness for the time period. What was the reaction to this when it was published?
2,099 311 comments [AMA] AMA: I'm Garrett Ryan, author of NAKED STATUES, FAT GLADIATORS, AND WAR ELEPHANTS: FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ANCIENT GREEKS AND ROMANS. Ask me anything about my book!
1,941 38 comments As the captain of a Royal Navy frigate during the Napoleonic Wars, to what extent can I modify my ship?
1,818 19 comments When big cities like London or Paris first built proper sewerage systems, was that politically controversial?
1,723 54 comments What happened to the $2.3trillion Rumsfeld announced was missing on Sep10 2001?

 

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1,433 /u/GravitasIsOverrated replies to What happened to the $2.3trillion Rumsfeld announced was missing on Sep10 2001?
1,238 /u/Georgy_K_Zhukov replies to Wikipedia's article on US Civil War prison camps has a pretty disturbing picture of an almost literally skeletal but apparently still living survivor of one. Is the identity of this particular soldier known? What happened to him?
1,030 /u/jbdyer replies to As hosts of the 1980 Summer Olympics, the USSR was invited to host that year's Paralympics. In response, they issued a statement denying the existence of any disabled people in the country (and hence the lack of disability sports). Why did the Soviet government state such a ridiculous claim?
786 /u/jbdyer replies to Is there evidence for the "Cobra Effect" story?
762 /u/TonyGaze replies to Did Karl Marx arm himself? If so, with what?
478 /u/EdHistory101 replies to Is moving out at 18 an artifact of World War II?
461 /u/[deleted] replies to Why weren't Native Americans the primary slave population in America?
396 /u/the_howling_cow replies to During segregation what would happen if a white person drank from a "negro" fountain?
376 /u/jschooltiger replies to As the captain of a Royal Navy frigate during the Napoleonic Wars, to what extent can I modify my ship?
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Sorry I can’t format that well I’m on my phone but I have been watching Romanaov documentaries and it’s fascinating to see that picture of Alexandra and Nicholas (probably butchering someone’s spelling) and see how in love they were then hear in a different documentary how King George and Queen Mary could only communicate their feelings through notes and how he would shout at her and she would leave the table in silent protest. I know they’re only cousins and even if you’re related it doesn’t mean you’re similar but I think it’s just so fascinating to me to see the difference in marriages and how formal one was versus the other.

KimberStormer

Recently I've been thinking we sometimes do a sort of Whig History in reverse; we fail to see the full complexity of our own time, in favor of an imposed narrative based on the past. (That narrative, of course, also wildly simplified.) Expecting history to repeat so precisely that whatever can't be forced into an analogy with something that happened before is just discarded as irrelevant.

Like, I think people have a certain narrative of the "fall of the Roman Empire", and when they've decided that the American Empire will surely fall, they start to look for parallels, whatever they may be, and discard all the things about today that are unlike then (which is, of course, basically everything) so they can confidently predict that America will fall. This is a bit of a silly example, but it does happen, and maybe serves to explain what I mean. The really weird thing is that this kind of person often considers themself to be a clear-eyed truth-teller, and the rest of us in denial.

Anabanglicanarchist

Has anyone here had any success teaching an ancient language to their child?

Random_Army_Guys

How do you contact a historian/historical organization? I tried emailing the AHA but they told me it was inappropriate for "historians to interview other historians". I am not a historian, BTW, but I do wish to contact a historian because I need help with a school project.