Victorian Historians - Were maids allowed in the same carriage as their masters?

by Sian_writes_nonsense

Hello, I am writing a historical novel set in Victorian era London. I wanted to ask by the title: Would ladies' maids be allowed to sit in the same carriage as their masters when there is a need to travel?

auditorygraffiti

Yes, a lady’s maid could ride in the same carriage as her employer, who would be referred to as her mistress. Lady’s maids could be chaperones for unmarried women on social outings as well. However, this doesn’t mean that they always rode in the same carriages. It would depend on who else was going, personal preferences, and other factors.

You specifically ask if a lady’s maid would travel with their master so I also want to address if you are asking about a lady’s maid traveling with a man and the answer is generally no. Men had valets who they may travel with. Etiquette wouldn’t typically allow a lady’s maid to travel alone with a man but since men had valets, this wouldn’t be a situation that would come up with any frequency anyway. A lady’s maid’s skill set wouldn’t offer a man much.

There is a ton of primary source material available from the Victorian era. You may consider using it in your research so that you have the most specific information about cultural norms and etiquette of the time.

Hergrim

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