Why does hadrian not get a scandalous/bad rep like Nero, commodus etc?

by Ayearinbooks

Not saying he deserved one. But the whole arc of

  • seemingly chosen by trajans wife not trajan
  • early killing of senators
  • withdrawal from trajans conquests
  • his general 'unromanness'
  • his Nero like belief in his own brilliance up to and including alleged jealous killing of Apollodorus
  • his relationship with Antinous, and Antinous's suspicious death and scandalous deification

Clearly the senate wanted to damn him but were stopped. But I'm notnsure why the traditional English language histories don't paint him as a bonkers cowardly pervert monster. You could see how the story would be told.

Is it as simple as not having the same sort of narrative sources we have for other scandalous emperors? Was Gibbon including him as one of the Good Emperors following received wisdom or an unusually positive take that was then influential.

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Hey there,

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