Why were women commonly used as personifications of nations or ideals (liberty, justice etc..) around the enlightenment era if they were considered to be the lesser sex?

I live in France and the symbol of Marianne is everywhere. She’s not the only women who represents an identity or an idea. Liberty and justice are depicted as women too. National personifications don’t seem to escape the feminine touch either. Britannia is depicted as a woman and a lot of art from the enlightenment period seems to depict different ideals as women. This doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense when you consider the fact that women were seen as less intelligent and weaker than men during these times and wouldn’t even have the right to vote in the US, U.K. and France until the early 20th century.

My absolute favourite piece of art is “liberty leading the people” by Eugène Delacroix. It’s a good example of the female personification that I’m talking about. Liberty (or Marianne I guess) is depicted as a bare chested general, leading revolutionaries forward across a pile of corpses. Surely any woman who attempted to stage a scene like this would be highly frowned upon in that era? Women were also considered to be “more sensitive” and “weak” so why is she depicted in such a warlike pose? The Statue of Liberty is another example. She stands tall and with a harsh expression. That goes against a lot of ideals about womanhood from the time. They aren’t depicted as wives or mothers but as fierce warriors, judges, revolutionaries and leaders. Why? Is it a male fantasy? An idealistic portrayal of humanity? Just an aesthetic choice?

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Why does the Korean War get so little coverage in American history?

My grandfather and many of our grandfathers served in Korea but they never talk about it. World War II is talked about, Vietnam is talked about, desert storm is talked about - all of these American conflicts are such iconic parts of our history. Why not the Korean War?

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Why is World War 1 so forgotten in the US popular psyche?

I don’t think the argument of time necessarily holds either. When I do google WW1 it’s easy to see that in the US it was unpopular and sparked many controversies, including the investigations into the deaths of hundreds of marines the morning of the armistice

Why is it so ignored? In my mind WW1 is a lot older but more relatable that WW2. With WW1 you really can see the disillusionment of the people and it permeated into popular culture. Not so much after WW2.

Why?

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[META] Can we stop with the whole "follow up question" thing?

I know this might be removed (All Mighty Mods, show mercy on my post) but I feel like someone needs to say this.

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I'm getting really tired of every time somebody posts a question, a dozen other users comment on with their "Hey, if I may attach my question to yours!" I understand that sometimes we get tangent thoughts when we see big questions, but the whole point of posting on this sub is that you, the users, ask your own question. It just feels like when I post a question and the first ten comments are people asking their own questions on my post, they are simply stealing my post's light.

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I'm sorry if I sound a bit envious here, but when I make a post I want historians to come there and answer MY question. If you have an additional question, it's simple enough to create your own post and link to mine or whoever else made you think of that question.

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(Steps off soapbox) sorry for the rant everyone. I love this subreddit and I get tired of seeing this stuff.

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How did we transition from battleships to aircraft carriers?

I've heard both ways that battleships were still thought to rule supreme at the start of World War Two, and that people had already begun to realize the future of carriers at that point.

When exactly did this shift in thinking occur? Were there any nations who resisted this change and held onto battleships as the future?

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How do we know Washington's cherry tree story was fabricated?

I tried to look for solid evidence that the story was fabricated, but could not find any (nor could I find anything to prove it is true). A few articles (e.g., https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/cherry-tree-myth/) nicely summarize how the story spreads around, but they simply claim that the original story is true or false. If cherry tree is impossible, could it be another plant easy for a 6yo with a hatchet?

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How did Greek and Roman myths affect common life?

Essentially, do we know how much of an influence myths were in the life of a regular Greek or Roman citizen? Were they similar to how religion is today, ie. were there people who actively worshipped the deities?

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What made the Paris commune so important to Karl Marx?

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Why did it take until the 1800s for Italy to be unified?

As a related question, were there any attempts between the fall of Rome and the 1800s to unify the country?

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People talk a lot about Ottoman Decline and the Sick Man of Europe, but why hasn’t this been attributed to other European powers which also lost prestige and status?

In particular I think about Spain and Portugal, who pioneered colonization and were superpowers in the 16th and 17th century but were in a less dominant position afterwards. How come the Ottomans get all the attention for this perceived weakness when other Great Powers of Europe have lost their almighty position much earlier

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Besides Slavery. Why did the US civil war happen? The other Differences between the sides?

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We often hear about how the Byzantines invented Greek Fire. How often was it used? How come it doesn't seem like they didn't utilize it within their military that much?

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What sources of evidence do we have that Hitler died (committed suicide) with Eva Braun at the Führerbunker in 1945?

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What was the 'Fourth' nuke that was left unused in World War II and what was it called?

Apparently there was a fourth nuke that was planned to be deployed on the Japanese, but the Japanese surrendered before it could be used, and the nuke was locked away forever in Los Alamos.

I can't find any information on what the bomb looked like, what it was called, or if it was just another fat man style bomb.

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How common was PTSD from wars in medieval times, was it discussed in literature?

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Around the turn of the 16th century, thousands of Sephardi Jews were forced to leave their homes in Spain. The Ottoman Empire allowed the Jews to settle in Istanbul, Damascus and Thessaloniki. Why did the Ottomans give them shelter? What was the public opinion like both in and out of the Empire?

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“World War II in colour” is amongst the most famous modern documentaries covering the War, but does it have any glaring historical inaccuracies?

I was intending on recommending it to a younger family member in order to provide an overview of the Second World War, but I wanted to make sure it was accurate at first, as I’ve made mistakes on that front before.

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Around the turn of the 16th century, tens or hundreds of thousands of Sephardi Jews were forced to leave their homes in Spain and Portugal in flight to places like Amsterdam, Marrakesh, Algeirs, and Venice. Did any of these people leave letters or diaries behind?

I would love to hear about this massive international displacement from the people directly affected.

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Was it possible in 1943-45 Nazi Germany for a fit, early 20's man to NOT be in the military? What one would have had to do to avoid service?

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Any good resources on Ashikaga Yoshimitsu's relations with China?

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Any books recommendation about Julius caesar life?

I want to learn more about caesar's life and go into detail for his military/polical aspects

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At what point did they refer to "The Great War" as WW1?

When did people decide to change the name of "The Great War" into WW1, and did this name change grab on with the average person and WW1 veterans right away?

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What's the significance of the popularity of "Ripperology"?

What's the history of the obsession with Jack the Ripper? And what are seen as the reasons that this relatively small, old cluster of murders still commands so much attention? How much of this is related to interest in talking about the taboo topic of sex work?

I'm also interested in any information on the history of this kind of non-historian "history enthusiast" that obsesses over a topic, but in what seems like a way that's very different from academic inquiry.

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Why did Portugal and Spain not produce any legendary classical music composers?

Tchaicovsky, Motzart, Rossini, Beethoven, Schubert etc etc. Every empire of the day seemed to produce legendary composers, except Spain and Portugal. Why?

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In "The Producers", Hitler and Nazism are put on display and celebrated/mocked, two decades after the end of WWII. How was this film so successful, winning an Academy Award, when now, 70 years after WWII, making a movie mocking the Holocaust would be considered extremely bad taste?

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