Why did the ancient greeks and romans have flowing water, aqueducts and advanced structures and people in the middle ages (hundreds/thousands of years later) didn't?

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Given Nazi Germany’s hatred of disabled people, what happened to soldiers with debilitating war wounds? Were they seen as heroes to be celebrated, or burdens on society to be thrown away?

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Thursday Reading & Recommendations | May 05, 2022

Previous weeks!

Thursday Reading and Recommendations is intended as bookish free-for-all, for the discussion and recommendation of all books historical, or tangentially so. Suggested topics include, but are by no means limited to:

  • Asking for book recommendations on specific topics or periods of history
  • Newly published books and articles you're dying to read
  • Recent book releases, old book reviews, reading recommendations, or just talking about what you're reading now
  • Historiographical discussions, debates, and disputes
  • ...And so on!

Regular participants in the Thursday threads should just keep doing what they've been doing; newcomers should take notice that this thread is meant for open discussion of history and books, not just anything you like -- we'll have a thread on Friday for that, as usual.

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My history teacher said that before British interference in the early 20th century, Arabs and Jews lived together in peace in the Israel/Palestine region. Is that true?

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Do we know anything about how Aristophanes plays were staged?

I've just read a few Aristophanes plays: Wasps, the Poet and the Women and Frogs and I can't but wonder how these plays were performed. I always imagine Greek theater to have a kind of minimalist aesthetic but the stage directions seem to imply some pretty flashy set design and what I can only assume are some fairly neat contraptions. Do we have any info about this outside of the stage directions themselves..? Fyi I'm reading an old penguin classics translation not the original Greek.

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Did the leadership of the Soviet Union in its later years actually still believe in communism?

Cold War fiction writers like Tom Clancy frequently portrayed the late Soviet leadership as utterly cynical, corrupt figures who knew that their system was a complete joke. Was this actually true?

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Do modern large-scale organized hooligan fights give any insights into how pre-firearms battles were fought?

We've all seen film depictions of medieval or ancient battles where everyone gets chaotically intermingled after the first charge and start fighting with absolutely no cohesion, much less a battle line. It never makes much sense, except maybe to show how heroically badass the main character is or cut down on production costs. But what do historians say these battles *really* looked like and how do they come to those conclusions? Obviously contemporary accounts written after battles exist but these are pretty limited for a lot of reasons so it seemed worth wondering what other ways we could get insight into the matter.

I don't know how many of you are aware of the youtube subgenre of hool fights but they were fairly popular some 10-15 years ago during the heyday of the European hooligan firms and hooliganism in general. Basically hooligan firms are organized groups of young, typically male, supporters of a particular football/soccer club who routinely get in fights with the firms of rival teams. These fights are usually pretty well planned as far as street brawls go with firms coordinating on the number of participants on each side, location, colors worn, even rules to an extent such as allowing downed individuals to tap out to exit the fight.

Anyway... some of these larger fights (around a 50 vs 50 person count and above) kind of seem like they play out a lot like battles fought centuries ago. The fighters on both sides keep pretty tight with their comrades, a major goal is to avoid having someone run up and hit you from behind, there's even a clear "line of battle". Sure there are no deadly weapons, missiles, etc. but there's still lots of stuff you might expect if you transported yourself back to watch two semi-organized societies go at it back in the day. You even see how battles were won, with one side gradually giving ground until the participants decide they've had enough and make a run for it. Pretty interesting stuff.

And so all of that's just a long winded way of asking if serious historians ever study these types of fights to get a clearer understanding of what battles were like and how they were fought. Thanks for reading and please enjoy a few more videos that I think are good representatives of the "pre-firearm battle" style of hooligan fights. And if anyone has a link to one particular fight where the blue shirted side absolutely crushes and rolls up the flank of the orange shirted side then I'll give you some god damn reddit gold.

Maybe the most famous video, it's found under many (often incorrect) title descriptions around the web but : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqIAWcTLKx8&list=PL1666786A54648A90&index=35&t=26s

This one isn't as organized but DOES show the pulse effect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RWzc1R6pRE&list=PL1666786A54648A90&index=40

A smaller scale example, maybe 25 vs 25, but has many of the same principles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKm6EdZaWU&list=PL1666786A54648A90&index=24

So far these videos have featured Russian or east european hooligans but here's one with Swedes vs Danes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ncM0FguKo&ab_channel=Interestingshortvideos

Edit - added another video and cleaned up some stuff.

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Did the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki trigger the nuclear arms race?

More specifically, had the US not used (or even invented) the nuclear bomb at all, would another nation have followed suit anyways?

Was the Manhattan project a sort of "invention of the wheel" kind of phenomenon that rapidly spread across the world, or was it an isolated case? Can we assume if the project hadn't happened to begin with that no other similar project would have happened?

I realize this might belong more on r/askphysicists, but I'm just curious about the historical repercussions of the project and the twin bombs.

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Is the story of Ho Chi Minh walking across the street to the Soviet Embassy true?

I remember my history teacher telling us a story about how Ho Chi Minh was ignored at the US Embassy when he wanted support in making Vietnam independent. He then walked across the street to the Soviet Embassy where they flew him to the Soviet Union and equipped him to start a revolution against the French in Vietnam. Is any of this remotely true?

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Has there ever been a genocide against “dumb” people?

I mean this in the sense of how Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge there was a genocide against intellectuals I wanted to know has the opposite ever happened?

This isn’t a means to hate anyone I just had this question in my head for a few months. This isn’t meant to hate just to learn

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Did the names of Roman Emperors mean anything in particular or were they just names?

Like Caligula’s full name, Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus. What does Germanicus mean? Did it have anything to do with the province of Germania? Was it a title?

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Turkic peoples established dynasties and states as far North as Siberia, East as China, South as India, and West as Libya. Why were Turkic peoples spread so far and why were they so successful?

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Why did the Civil War start almost immediately after the Southern states began to secede? Couldn't the Union and Confederacy coexist like separate countries?

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Why did Christianity win out over Norse Paganism?

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The infantry of medieval armies were often not peasants with spears, but highly trained and well-armed urban militias. How eager to fight and warlike were these militias? Did they train frequently? How did they do on the battlefield?

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How unpopular was the KKK during the first half of the 20th century?

I was reading about Hugo Black, who was the first of FDR's Supreme Court nominations. Specifically, it was mentioned that after his confirmation in 1937, Hugo resigned from the Senate and was sworn in 2 days later. He later said that he was sworn in ASAP because he feared the Senate/public learning of his past KKK membership would sink his nomination.

My question is, how unpopular was the Klan during this era? And if it was truly so unpopular that past membership could sink an Alabama Senator's nomination to the SC, why was it so unpopular? I've always been under the impression that most Americans in the 1930s were either "extremely racist" or "holds less extreme, still racist views". Did the klan ever have the majority of the public on their side, say in 1924, when their membership peaked? Was the klan unpopular in spite of the public having racist views, or was the public liberalizing and the klan's popularity suffered as a result?

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How confident are historians that the story of Guvernor Morris dying from injuries sustained inserting a whale bone into his penis are true?

I learned about Guvernor Morris in University studying the Constitutional Convention and was surprised by how prolific he was. Of all the regular speakers at the convention, he was the only one who did not go on to become a president or otherwise be remembered as a Founding Father.

My professor told us this was because of Morris' opposition to the War of 1812. That position made him very unpopular politically, and it led a lot of history book authors to write him out entirely.

Today, on r/TIL, I saw this story, which said Guvernor Morris died in 1816 from injuries sustained inserting a whale bone into his urethra to try to treat a bladder infection.

To me, that sounded exactly like something a yellow journalist would write, right around the time the country hated Morris the most. But the Wikipedia article seems to have two sources for the story.

Did Morris really die that way? Was it a hoax? Has anyone investigated?

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Why are British Victorian residential roads so wide?

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Did Huygens and Cassini direct astronomical missions with the intent of supporting the French trade in enslaved people?

This claim is made in Chanda Prescod-Weinstein's Decolonising Science Reading List:

Europeans have engaged what is called “internalist” science very seriously over the last 500 years and often in service and tandem with colonialism and white supremacy. For example, Huygens and Cassini facilitated and directed astronomical observation missions in order to help the French better determine the location of St. Domingue, the island that houses the modern nations of Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Why? Because this would help make the delivery of slaves and export of the products of their labor more efficient.

I have been unable to find any academic or pop-history text that discusses this claim in any detail.

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Did Engles adapt his business practices to reflect his political philosophy?

So, Engles had a potted career working in his father's textile industry, especially in the Manchester office. We hear a lot about how his early experience there informed his theoretical work, especially The Condition of the Working Class in England.

But did he ever reform or changes to the business itself, reflecting his political philosophy? It seems he did eventually work his way up first to run the Manchester office, and later to full partner, so what did he do in the business with that control and power?

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What was it like doing archaeology and history work in China from the 1970s-90s, both for visiting foreign and local Chinese researchers? What special challenges did the Party and its preference or perceived preferences for particular narratives present?

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What exactly were the cultural impacts on Russia by the Golden Horde?

In my research I’ve found some interesting things like the rise of the Orthodox Church to its powerful and influential place. I’ve also found that Moscow was a relatively small city that was burned to the ground before the Mongols came. But I haven’t really been able to find much in the way of cultural impacts, and I was wondering if anyone more knowledgeable on the topic knew anything. Or if anyone is able to find some sources that I haven’t been able to find. Any help and discussion would be greatly appreciated.

I also have noticed that there isn’t a lot of direct influence, like adoption of religions or traditions since the mongols didn’t occupy Russia like they did China or Persia.

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Is Victor Lieberman's "Strange Parallels in Southeast Asia" a good book?

Also, how creditable is Victor Lieberman in the history academic community?

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What do historians mean by "postmodernity" or "postmodern era"?

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Did Timur ever see a giraffe in real life?

I've always wondered why did Timur name one of the pieces in Timur's chess as "the giraffe" since they are not very useful in war

Perhaps he never saw a giraffe and all he knew is that they were long horses from far away lands, and if they were like horses then it made sense to have them in his game along Elephants, horses and camels

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