The Iliad: there are some strange drink recipes in it. Do we know if people actually consumed that stuff?

Book 11: Agamemnon's day of glory

Machaon the healer is wounded in battle. Nestor picks him up and brings him to his tent. There, a few warriors have a little refreshment together to restore their strength and raise their spirits.

In this cup the woman skilled as a goddess

mixed them a strong drink with Pramnian wine,

over it shredded goat cheese with a bronze grater

and scattered barley into it, glistening pure white,

then invited them to drink when she had mulled it all.

(translation by Robert Fagles)

I know that the ancient Greeks used to drink wine diluted with water (this was still customary in Eastern Europe when I grew up there) and optionally mixed with honey. But goat cheese? Old-timey oatmeal barleymeal? This is more like a meal, or an energy drink / soup / whatever.

How much were these recipes actually consumed by real people, as opposed to being just a literary invention? I suppose they did have some basis in reality, otherwise they would have sounded just as strange to Homer's audience.

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Why didn't the crusaders targeted North Africa early on?

During the Roman Times Carthage was an important city and it was a prominent Christian city back then. North Africa, especially Modern Day Tunisia was so close to Rome and it was dominated by Muslims during the time of the Crusades. The Fourth Crusades tried to invade Jerusalem by going into Egypt first. But why didn't they try to invade the Eastern Half of Mahgreb before going into Egypt then into Jerusalem? Why didn't the early crusaders tried to establish a Crusader state around Carthage?

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How were the Soviets able to transport millions of troops across Siberia quickly, and form supply lines?

I get that they had the Trans-Siberian railroad, but they'd need coal/diesel to run the trains, and food and water to sustain millions of troops while they traveled, and ammunition and vehicles and fuel for the supply line. All that in areas of very low populations and no economies of scale.

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Did British criminals in the 1700s and 1800s really worship a deity called the Tawny Prince? If so, what were the origins of this deity?

Criminals worshiping the Tawny Prince is mentioned briefly in this book on Australian history I'm reading. Googling the Tawny Prince gets me nothing at all.

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Why did tanks such as the T-62 and M1A1 Abrams adopt a smoothbore gun? Aren't rifled guns generally superior?

I'm a bit confused, because it seems that only the Challenger 2 (and the Indian Arjun but that probably violates the 20 year rule) still uses a rifled gun, despite the well-known advantages in accuracy. Has modern engineering eliminated the problems with smoothbores that originally caused them to be abandoned?

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Why (and since when) all, or almost all countries, have summer holidays (school vacations period) in almost precisely the same time of year?

I assume it's obviously connected to good weather conditions, although I'm interested how it came to being so unified amongst countries.

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What can I get out of a history major/minor? Would you recommend it for financial stability?

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Was there ever a point during the Cold War when the USSR had superior military force to the US?

If so, when?

Were they ever even?

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What was the reason for conducting an IQ test during the Nuremberg Trials?

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Why was the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral so famous?

Was it the long feud aspect? The people involved? An entire awesome movie was made on it, and it's described as the most famous Wild West shootout, but I don't understand why it was so famous.

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When was the last time wooden sailing ships were used?

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Why should I give a rip about the Plinys?

Elder/Younger - they still come up all the time in modern times - yet can't figure out why they got their fame...help me out. Learn me.

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Why did Omar Bradley travel with a personal physician during negotiations to end the Korean War? Where can I find more photographic documentation?

My grandfather Dr. Albert Cottrell Haas traveled with Omar Bradley in the late 1950s during these negotiations. Why did Omar Bradley require a personal physician? We have scant documentation of these travels - a few photographs, a few letters to home that understandably don't provide much detail. Dr. Haas suffered a massive heart attack and died in his 40s - so his story has been lost to us.

I'll post a reply below with one of our few photographs.

If this is an improper use of this forum I understand, apologize and am receptive to redirection. Thank you!

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How good would the average pirate have been as a swordsman? What about as a shot?

Forgot to add time period, I mean golden age Caribbean pirates of the kind usually portrayed as excellent fencers in film.

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What was the tactical purpose of grenadier regiments?

Grenadiers seem at first glace like profoundly useless units. Small explosives that are thrown by hand don't seem to have much of a tactical niche over falconets, howitzers, and other battlefield artillery.

Yet grenadiers seem to have been a popular and celebrated part of many industrial age armies.

Outside of being a status symbol, what was the function of grenadiers in early-modern warfare?

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Why didn't the UK declare war on Argentina in response to the invasion of the Falkland Islands?

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Book suggestions: Books written about the Pearl Harbor attacks between 1.) 1942-1946 and 2.) 1946-1961

Hey, everyone. Sorry for the title gore. I don't know how to format a title properly.

I'm looking for two sets of books on Pearl Harbor. Anything written during the duration of WWII and anything written from the end of WWII to the 20 year anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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By Jove! How did English-speaking Christians come to invoke a pagan roman god?

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I've seen people claim that rap music originated from flyting, is there any truth to that?

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How was the situation of displaced persons immidiately after WW2 in Germany? Was the german population still hostile?

After years of propaganda, were there still crimes comitted against those displaced persons or was the relationship peaceful?

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What are good resources to use to research ancestors who served in the military?

I have three grandparents (possibly more) who served in the US Armed Forces during World War 2 and Korea. One of them died in WW2, the other two came home, started families, but died very young.

What are some good resources to use if all that I know about these men is their names, where they were from, (possibly) their day of death, and what war they served in? Is there a good procedure to go through when requesting information from the government so that I don't get bogged down in paperwork / follow dead ends?

I was able to stumble across some obituaries / death lists for World War 2 and bootstrapped that into finding my great uncle's unit, where he died, when, and where he was buried. However, that information has been tougher to find for my grandfathers, largely because they had "variable" names (James / Jim, Nicholas / Nick, and both would sometimes have "Jr" or use their middle names) and because we don't list the men who come back.

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How did the Victorians build such tall Chimneys?

Its awe inspiring to see tall chimneys here in the UK, and to think it was hand built by men in the 1800's. How did they make these structures, over 200 feet tall, by hand and keep them perfectly straight?

Barrow Bridge Chimney comes to mind, but there are many, many more in the UK.

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Questions About the Long Depression

Dear r/AskHistorians, today I am requesting assistance on a topic I have had trouble researching/understanding.

  1. What were the causes and or reasons for the depression? Why did it happen?

  2. Which nations did it affect? I have heard that it hurt industrialized nations and especially France. But in general, what nations were affected and how were they affected? Did the GDP shrink for countries, did Industrial production fall?

  3. How did the Long Depression affect South America? As they always were an exporter of resources such as silver, this would affect them quite a bit right?

  4. In my high school (US History), they teach that at the same time, America was in the Gilded Age, where industry boomed and there was economic growth. Wouldn't this contradict the existence of the Long Depression? (no this is not a project, just curious about this, my teacher never taught us about the long depression.)

  5. Why did the depression end? Where any policies implemented to prevent this?

  6. If you have any extra information or sources, could you share them, please?

Thank you for your time! Edit: Clarified specifics

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The 1914 Willy-Nicky telegrams between the German Kaiser and the Russian Tsar to prevent the war were all in English. It wouldn't be surprising for a world leader to know English today following globalization, but how common or important was it for a sovereign to know English in the early 1900s?

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Many different languages from many different countries have a lot of surnames in the style of "Johnson", ie; "John's Son". How did so many come to have this same naming convention?

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