In "The Red Queen" it is mentioned that many medieval men had trouble finding women to marry, sometimes marrying only in their late 30's, because many young females were hired as the "help" in castles. To what extent was polygamy practiced in medieval Europe?

The author brings many examples of ancient institutionalized systems of polygamy like in the Inca:

In the ancient empire of the Incas, sex was a heavily regulated industry. The sun-king Atahualpa kept fifteen hundred women in each of many “houses of virgins” throughout his kingdom. They were selected for their beauty and were rarely chosen after the age of eight—to ensure their virginity. But they did not all remain virgins for long: They were the emperor’s concubines. Beneath him, each rank of society afforded a harem of a particular legal size. Great lords had harems of more than seven hundred women.

He also mentions that even in Christendom polygamy was practiced. I don't recall the exact passages, be he talks about feudal lords depleting many of the surrounding villages of young females for "housework" in the castle. He also mentioned a few castles that had secret passageways from the lord's bedroom to the women's quarters, and even the infirmary...

Is this true? Was the supposedly prude and Catholic medieval period maybe a little more mischievous than we think it was?

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What made the Companion Cavalry of Philip II and Alexander the Great so effective as shock cavalry?

This era was long before the invention of stirrups and the medieval cavalry charge yet the famous Alexander mosaic shows both the Macedonian and Persian cavalry armed with long spears. Was there something unique about the horses or equipment of the Companions or was it the simple military brilliance of Philip and Alexander that made them so effective?

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Thoughts on the 1619 Project?

I’ve been reading the essays and find them fascinating and historically provocative (in a good way). However I noticed the authors reference themselves in footnotes very often and often swing wildly through large swaths of time. I greatly appreciate how they frame new narratives to the public, but at times these great leaps in time puzzle me as to the accuracy of what sometimes feels like a monolithic, all-reaching narrative and explanation. How do Historians view the essays?

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Was Fascist Italy racist?

Was Fascist Italy racist?

I am referring to this Mussolini quote: "Race! It is a feeling, not a reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today."

Did Italians face any discrimination?

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How did American middle and high schools (many of them anyways) come to cover the Holocaust?

Inspired in part by this question, I am curious how the Holocaust came to be represented in American school history curricula. Obviously every American history teacher has a different curriculum, but most people I've talked to across multiple towns and states covered the Holocaust to varying degrees of depth (my school spent a full quarter on the topic). But a century ago no one learned about the Holocaust, for obvious reasons. Now many if not most schools spend a good amount of time on it. This means at some point school curricula had to start to change, and as anyone who has ever worked on curricula will tell you, that can be a bit of a mess.

Who pushed to add the Holocaust to history curricula? Who pushed back? What arguments were made for/against these changes? Was there a "Sputnik Moment"-style that led to dramatic changes in education, or was the transition more gradual?

Additionally, how has Holocaust education evolved through the years? How have the debates that exist within the academy (i.e. functionalism vs. intentionalism; I don't mean those who dispute the obvious facts) trickled down into middle/high school classrooms?

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Why roman paganism falled so fast?

A lot of sources seem to suggest that roman religion was already at a very weak point even right at the conversion of Constantine, so was it already decreasing in popularity before that? Why?

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What importance and roles did dogs have in Native American life? Also how did pre Colombian dogs go extinct? How did the Native Americans feel about their breeds being replaced by European dog breeds and how did Native Americans adjust to the replacement?

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Rokossovsky's argument with Stalin over Bagration: did it really happen?

I've just seen this video where Alexey Isaev claims that Stavka made the decision for a two point breakthrough, but Rokossovsky claimed the credit in his memoirs.

Is Isaev likely to be correct?

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Short Answers to Simple Questions | December 29, 2021

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How does translating history books work?

There's numerous books I'd like to read but they're in German with no English translation. How often are foreign books translated into English? Hypothetically, could anyone who knows the language ask the author if they could translate their book for them?

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Did the USSR fund or aid insurrections across the world as the USA and European capitalist nations did?

I was wondering this while reading about Allende's presidency in Chile, and the involvement of the US government and its agencies in destabilising the Chilean government, funding strikes and how, as Kissenger put it, "they created the conditions as great as possible" for Pinochet's coup. This seems to have been motivated purely by ideology rather than the merits of Allende's policies.

Other examples of leftist or anti-imperialist governments (or those who at least took concrete steps to reduce the involvement of foreign interests in their economies) being usurped by western powers include in Burkina Faso under Sankara (disputed, but the involvement at least of the French seems something of an open secret), Uruguay, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil and other South American nations, Iran, and of course the Bay of Pigs and the Vietnam war to name just a few.

I know that the coup which brought Sankara himself to power may have had involvement from Ghaddafi's Libya, and of course Che Guevarra was killed while attempting to foment revolution in Bolivia - but I am curious about the extent to which the USSR attempted to fund regime change across the world.

How much time and resources did they invest in this sort of scramble for ideological allies? Of course there was the Warsaw pact, but this was not on the scale of Operation Condor's influence of an entire continent, and due to the geographical proximity such influence would surely come cheaper, on top of the opportunity presented by being able to pick and choose the new government post-WW2 after the Red Army pushed from Moscow to Berlin. Perhaps the governments I mention as being overthrown by the west had received backing from the USSR in the first place?

Any insight would be most welcome, apologies if this question is poorly worded!

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Why was Xenophon account of Medes-Persian confederation rejected?

Why was Xenophon account that the Medes peacefully merging with Persia after the death of Cyaxares II rejected in favor of Herodotilus account of Cyrus the great conquering Media? Xenophon account would also be supported by rhe book of Daniel too.

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The Telegraph has published an article claiming that a Church in Devon contains clues pointing to the survival of one of the Princes in the Tower. Is this likely, or is it "Da Vinci Code" level history?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/28/richard-iii-may-not-have-killed-young-princes-tower-london-new/

This is the article, for context. Unfortunately it is behind a paywall, but this TikTok account gave a decent summary too.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8wWescC/

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How much misinformation was in my textbooks?

If I went to grade school in the 80s, what percentage of the history/social studies information contained in my textbooks would now be considered incorrect?

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The Inca Empire referred to itself as the 'Four Parts Together', but what were the four parts, and what distinguished them? Was it just an arbitrary administrative separation, or did they represent distinct cultural groups within the empire?

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Why did the US revolt when other colonies like Canada did not?

My understanding is that the colonies that became the US had a highly favored status amongst the crown colonies of the British empire. I'm just wondering whether there was differentiation between how the 13 colonies and the Canadian colonies were treated, and if so what made the US colonies different from the other British colonies. Was it just that the US colonies had the most favorable position in terms of natural resources and population growth, and they simply grew too big to tolerate the yoke of colonialism? Or was it more that these were the favored colonies, and their regular interaction with British society led to a feeling that they deserved better than to be treated as mere colonies? Or was it for other reasons entirely?

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During a certain period of time (e.g. American Revolutionary War, US Civil War), soldiers lined up across from each other and fired guns in turns. Why was this considered effective battle strategy?

Broader discussion to provide context on combat prior to firearms and the evolution of military tactics into more guerrilla-style or covert operations would be helpful.

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Were Henry VII and Richard III friends?

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Did Medieval Archers Fire in Volleys?

In this YouTube video: video at around 30 seconds in, Roel Konijnendijk claims that volley fire never happened. Is this correct? From what I could find, there is ample evidence of volleys being used in medieval warfare.

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Given the chaos of the February Revolution in France, who would have had the authority (and hopefully reason) to order a French corvette to embark on an almost 2-year mission around the Pacific to find and transfer the son of a minor French noble from one whaling ship to another?

My husband (who is not a Redditor or a historian) is researching some background on a larger-than-life figure from Bath Maine: Francois de Loche (died 1889). Fascinating as his later history is, his early life reads something like a Kipling novel. He appears to have been the subject of a “secret mission” given to a well-known French naval commander, that took some 20 months to accomplish (with murder getting mixed in along the way).

The family concerned were Freemasons, but I am doubtful that association could have resulted in such an order being given. There are other questions, as it’s a fascinating story, so any insight or background would be vastly appreciated.

Possible areas of expertise that could help: French navy of the late 1800s; the Lautrec Family; French Freemasonry; French Revolution of 1848; Whaling in the South Pacific and Japan/Java seas late 1800’s; French presence in Macau and Manila; French consulate in Sydney NSW (1840’s); Jurien de la Graviere; ships la Bayonnaise (the second, less famous one) and/or l’Enterprise and l’Nil.

The facts of the story as we know them are below. All dates and details are from official sources such as ships logs and court reports or Graviere’s book mentioned below and linked at the bottom. Where we have connected information or are speculating (e.g., from plotting the ships’ voyages) I’ve italicized it.

13 October 1847, the French whaler l’Entreprise, under the command of Captain Briancon arrives in Sydney harbor.

  • Roughly half of the crew deserts immediately, and several more did so over the next 2 weeks.
  • Amongst the later deserters is Francois Alexander Deloche, a 16-year-old mousse (the ship's arming records have him as a mousse serving as a mousse; his personnel records have him as a novice serving as a mousse), who is the son of a French Chevalier (Charles Deloche). Charles Deloche’s grandfather was Guillaume de Lautrec de Vieussan (Viscount, Captain and Chevalier).
  • Another crew member, Louis Choammeau – 25, an M2-rated sailor departed and returned to the ship on the same dates as Francois. Note: according to l’Enterprise’s disarming sheet, it appears that Louis’s mother may have been a noblewoman (cannot fully decipher the last name).
  • As this was the last time Francois could have sent any communication in the relevant timeframes, it seems possible that Francois went to the French consul while in Sydney IF his desertion was to ask for assistance

5 November 1847, Francois & Louis return to the ship

  • Louis is demoted to Novice. Francois appears to have suffered no punishment. At least there is no mention to be found of it (Louis’ demotion is recorded in the disarming sheet – no other deserters returned).

Early November 1847, l’Enterprise departs having been refinanced and resupplied. A new, mostly English crew, is hired as replacements for the French deserters

23/24 January 1848, l’Enterprise arrives in Bay of Isles (New Zealand) – at the time mostly a whaler camp. The newly hired English are all thrown off the ship for insubordination and replaced with mostly American crewmen, including William Petty of New York (hired and eventually promoted to second in command).

  • It is unknown exactly when l’Enterprise departed Bay of Isles, their whaling expedition having been an utter failure (and it never improved – they caught 0 whales).

Feb 1848 begins the revolution of 1848 in France (February Revolution).

28 Feb 1848, the French corvette Bayonnaise returns to Macau after a week in Hong Kong, under the command of Captain of Frigate Jurien de la Graviere (who later became Vice Admiral).

  • Bayonnaise was expecting orders to return to their homeport of Cherbourg, France. Instead, they learn of the revolution and receive a “secret mission” (in the words of the chaplain of the ship). The chaplain learned of the mission from the Catholic Church in Macau. Presumably, the Captain learned of it from the French Consul (but Graviere never mentions it in his book “Voyage de la Corvette la Bayonnaise dans les mers de Chine Tombs I & II”).
  • It may be worth noting that the chaplain’s commentary is only known because of an official complaint he made to the church alleging abuse he suffered at the hands of the Bayonnaise’s officers

8 March 1848 the Bayonnaise departs Macau, in darkness with no fanfare or salutes, which was apparently out of the ordinary, and heads straight for Manila. (This is per the chaplain’s complaint/testimony)

15 March 1848, Bayonnaise arrives in Manila. According to personnel records, on 26 March 1848, a cousin of Chevalier Charles (Charles Augustus Deloche) is transferred from the whaler Gustav to the Bayonnaise. Anecdotal reports from the Lautrec family say the cousin was to assist the Bayonnaise in removing Francois from l’Entreprise and place him on the whaler l’Nil.

  • Side question: Why does a transfer of a single person from one obscure whaler to another (more famous one) require the use of a major French warship commanded by the head of the French mission to China?
  • During the next 8 months Bayonnaise and l’Enterprise criss-cross each other through the Pacific between the ports of Macau, Manila, and the Caroline islands – never arriving in the same port at the same time.

16 November 1848, Bayonnaise is in Macau and (according to the court report of a subsequent trial), Captain Graviere is tasked with conducting an extensive investigation into the actions of Captain Briancon of l’Entreprise (unknown what actions are being investigated – the events that are the subject of the trial had yet to occur).

  • The order is given to Graviere by le minister de la marine prescrivit(?) M Forth Rouen, the envoy of the Republic of France in residence in Macau on 16 November 1848. Side question: was he tasked with this investigation because he was already under orders to find that ship? Was Graviere the only important French commander in the Asia region? Why would one obscure whaler generate two different orders from two different consuls to track it down – was the captain THAT bad?

For the next 12 months, Bayonnaise sails the Pacific*, stopping at (seemingly) every whaling camp* from the Sea of Japan to the Java Sea and back again, without encountering l’Enterprise.

12 May 1849, a murder begins on board l’Entreprise (this is now 6 months after Graviere is tasked with investigating Briancon). The murder victim was a French financier (Mr. Tignol) – who was to be the new owner of the ship. The man was severely whipped/beaten on board the ship by Petty, and when he survived, was taken ashore, and beaten to death.

  • Mr. Tignol died on Lele island in the harbor of Strongs Island (aka Oualan), or Kosrae as it is known today.
  • Francois later testified to being below decks in his cabin (a mousse with a cabin?) while the beating was taking place directly above him.

Around early November 1849, Bayonnaise is in Macau, and Graviere learns that l’Entreprise is in Hong Kong harbor. Graviere requests permission to seize l’Enterprise (Hong Kong being under British rule at the time). The British deny the request and inform Graviere that if a French warship fires a shot in Hong Kong harbor the English forts will engage.

  • Graviere instead sends marines under command of one of his officers into Hong Kong harbor aboard a Portuguese lorcha, along with French officials from Macau. The Captain of the Portuguese ship invites captain Briancon to dinner aboard his ship and the French arrest him as he arrives on board the vessel.
  • After Briancon’s arrest, French marines go to seize the l’Enterprise and the crew willingly surrender it. The ship is then brought back to Macau, decommissioned, and burnt.

3 January 1850, Bayonnaise (with Francois aboard) departs Macau for Manila.

12 January 1850, on the order of the Consul of France, Francois is transferred to the whaler l’Nil in Manila harbor. Sometime between Nov 8 and 12 January he gave testimony regarding Mr. Tignol’s murder, which was introduced in the subsequent trial in France.

  • Bayonnaise departs Manila for Strong’s Island to investigate the murder and then sails home to France with the Captain, Petty, Charles Augustus Deloche, and the 6 remaining French crew of l’Enterprise (minus Francois and Louis Chammou – who also transferred to l’Nil).

23 March 1851, Nantes France; the trial of Briancon & Petty for the murder of Mr. Tignol. They were convicted and hung.

Summary:

Francois is the son of a minor noble (at best). Jurien de la Graviere is, at the time of these events, already a military officer and author of some renown.

What power, that survives a revolution, could have a French warship commanded by a famous Captain, spend 20 months on what appears to have started as a mission to remove said son from one whaler and put him onto another (intervening murder not withstanding)? Nothing directly says that Francois is the “secret mission”, but the Bayonnaise did nothing other than head for ports that l’Enterprise would conceivably have been at – nothing else happens of note, and the Bayonnaise heads for home as soon they are done with the investigation of the murder (after returning the Consul to Macao).

Sources:

Legal Gazette

http://data.decalog.net/enap1/Liens/Gazette/ENAP_GAZETTE_TRIBUNAUX_18510323.pdf

Enterprise Disarming Papers
https://www.archinoe.fr/v2/ad44/visualiseur/navires_nominatif.html?id=440604912

Graviere's book, tomb 2.
full ship schedule on page 382
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65497244/f5.image

Chaplain’s complaint – reference has been lost. It was an official protest recorded with the Chaplain’s superiors in the Catholic church.

Site hosting the l'Nil's arming papers has been down since the pandemic started (French records from L'Havre).

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How did people wake up on time prior to electric alarm clocks?

Title says it all. So much of my life revolves around waking up at specific times (for work, school, etc.), so how did people, in say the 17th century manage morning punctuality?

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Why was the Ming Dynasty so isolationist for most of its existence?

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T.V. History Question: Why is The Honeymooners on NYE?

How come there's a Honeymooners marathon every New Year's Eve? Is it because there's a New Year's Eve episode? Do they, like, end the marathon with that episode? Does anyone know when this tradition started or what channel started it?

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How did mountain men preserve and store meat?

When living out in the wilderness, with a lack of refrigeration, how did mountain men preserve and store their meat so it lasted for a long time?

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In the Chinese SciFi novel "The Three Body Problem" the mass violence and persecution of the Cultural Revolution are important plot points that are often revisited throughout, what is the view of the Cultural Revolution and its consequences in modern China?

I was especially curious as the novel and it's writer Liu Cixin are incredibly popular in China but the scenes describing things like Struggle Sessions, and the radicalism of the Red Guards seem like scathing descriptions that one would assume would be censored by the CCP, yet Liu has even spoken in support of the Chinese government and the novel has been adapted into a TV series in China. Are the negative consequences of the Cultural Revolution largely recognized in China?

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