What were the relations like between Oklahoma natives and the Five Civilized tribes after the Trail of Tears?

When the Cherokee, Choctaw etc were settled in Oklahoma in the early 19th century, how did they interact with the natives? I don't even know who the natives would have been, or which other tribes were relocated there apart from the Five. Any information on that would also be interesting.

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Have heavily armored soldiers ever been used effectively against nomadic horse archers?

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What did the Germans think when they saw the first tank in WWI?

The common soldier at the time probably had never seen anything like a tank before. so how did they react? how did they try to fight it? what did they think of it?

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Why caused American to only Annex Hawaii, but ignored its other island territories like Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Wake Island, or the Virgin Islands?

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Why didn't more western nations look to colonisation in the 10th century after the Norse found North America?

Many nations started colonisation in the 15-19th centuries after Castile found the Americas so why, when the Norse explored Greenland and Vinland, didn't more western nations look to colonisation at the time?

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When Christianity became dominant in the Roman Empire, what was the last remaining pagan community? Did the pagans have a "last stand"?

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Did European courts ever use eunuchs?

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I'm an ancient Roman and I want to join the army. How do I sign up?

Are there recruiting offices, or am I going to have to find an army camp? Is there some kind of selection process I'll have to go through?

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Saturday Reading and Research | July 26, 2014

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Saturday Reading and Research will focus on exactly that: the history you have been reading this week and the research you've been working on. It's also the prime thread for requesting books on a particular subject. As with all our weekly features, this thread will be lightly moderated.

So, encountered a recent biography of Stalin that revealed all about his addiction to ragtime piano? Delved into a horrendous piece of presentist and sexist psycho-evolutionary mumbo-jumbo and want to tell us about how bad it was? Need help finding the right book to give the historian in your family? Then this is the thread for you!

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AMA "Feudalism Didn't Exist" : The Social & Political World of Medieval Europe

Feudalism as a word is loaded with meaning.

It has dominated academic and popular conceptions of the Middle Ages, and continues to be taught in schools. The topic of feudalism is certainly popular on /r/AskHistorians which has seen fascinating and fruitful debate, sometimes in unexpected places. Sometimes it has led to tired repetition and moaning (from both sides) that 'feudalism was not a contemporary concept / can you please define what you mean by feudalism' or that we 'aren't explaining why feudalism doesn't exist'.

One of the troublesome things about using the word feudalism is definition. So, we must begin by testing your patience with a little bit of an introduction.

'Feudalism' is a broad term which has been presented by historians, most familiar being Marc Bloch and F.L. Ganshof, as complete models of medieval society covering law, culture and economics. Often 'feudalism' in the public mind, and for historians, is associated with knights, nobles, kings, castles, fiefs, lords, and vassals. Others might conceive of it in a socio-economic sense (the Marxist idea of appropriation of the means of production, in this case land, and tensions between classes). For many people it just means the medieval period (c.450-c.1450), often with its partner, 'The Dark Ages'. Commonly feudalism is used as an all encompassing concept, completely descriptive, such that when someone says 'It was a feudal society,' or 'They had feudal ties,' or 'He ruled as a feudal lord', the audience is supposed to understand implicitly what that means.

Feudalism is an intellectual construct created by legal antiquarians of the late sixteenth-century, developed and imposed by economists, intellectuals and historians onto the medieval period. The word itself first appeared in French, English, and German in the nineteenth-century. At the height of its popularity, feudalism purported to model the socio-political, legal, economic, and cultural world of the Middle Ages between the late Carolingians (c.850) and the later Middle Ages (c.1485).

The call for 'feudalism' to be 'deposed' was instigated in the 1970s by Elizabeth Brown in her groundbreaking paper ‘The Tyranny of a Construct: Feudalism and the Historians of Medieval Europe’. In 1994, a major assault was launched on the cornerstones of feudalism (ie Susan Reynolds’ Fiefs and Vassals) which revisited the sources with a critical eye. Her argument was that scholars, including great medieval historians, read the evidence expecting to find feudalism and then forced evidence to fit the received model of feudalism. Of course, the 'evidence' is often a matter of debate itself. The critiques made by historians like Reynolds have been met variously with denial, applause and caution. But Reynolds' critiques have been tested different ways in the past 20 years and many medievalists have found her ideas persuasive and well-founded. But it is still hotly debated. This AMA was created, in part, to discuss recent scholarship and explore how it changes well established theories about medieval political and social worlds....and maybe shed a little more light on an often confusing subject.

This AMA does have one rule which is really a product of the history of feudalism itself : as mentioned above, feudalism means many different things to different people. To some it might mean the hierarchical structure epitomized by the neat and tidy ‘feudal pyramid’, or it might mean a specific aspect of ties between classes or the socio-economic conflicts, or to some it might be an amalgamation of popular culture sources like Game of Thrones, D&D, Lord of the Rings, or King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. Therefore if you are going to reference 'feudalism' in your question (or other associated terms like vassal, fief, or service) we ask that you attempt to explain what you mean when you use those terms. We can't actually discuss feudalism if we don't understand what you mean by it! Historians have been guilty of using the word indiscriminately, but there are three general groups which loosely describe how historians use the term ‘feudalism’:

  1. The legal rules, rights, and obligations that governed the holding of fiefs (feuda in medieval Latin), especially in the Middle Ages;

  2. A social economy in which landed lords dominated a subject peasantry from whom they demanded rents, labor services, and various other dues, and over whom they exercised justice;

  3. A form of socio-political organization dominated by a military class, who were connected to each other by ties of lordship and subordination (“vassalage”) and who in turn dominated a subject peasantry;

A good grounding in this is Frederic Cheyette's essay, 'Feudalism: the history of an idea', (Unpublished, 2005).

As for AMA questions, we're keeping it to Western European society 700-1450 CE. Topics include: the historiography and theory of feudalism; representation of feudalism during the Middles Ages in modern media; historical and medieval concepts of overlordship and lordship (monarchical, noble/aristocratic, tenurial, or serfdom and slavery); rural, town, and city hierarchy and community; socio-political bonds (acts of homage, oaths of fidelity, ‘vassalage’, and 'chivalry'); law (land and other property, violence, and private warfare); economic relations; and alternatives to ‘feudalism’.

Things we explicitly are not dealing with:

  • 'daily life of so-and-so' questions (these are impossible to cover in an AMA)

  • no specific battle, fighting techniques or medieval arms and armour questions - that is a separate AMA is coming in August!

That said, this AMA is still very wide ranging and, of course, not even the boldest scholar would claim to be able to discuss the entirety of the medieval social and political world. So while these topics are on the table it should be recognised that we might not be able to answer all of them, especially if questions fall well outside of our training or research interests.

Your AMA medievalists:

/u/TheGreenReaper7 : holds an MA in Medieval and Renaissance Studies from University College London. His chief research outputs have been on the 'ritual of homage', regarded in Classical feudal historiography as the ‘great validating act of the whole feudal model’ (quote from Paul Hyams, 'Homage and Feudalism', 2002).

/u/idjet : A post-grad (desiring some privacy) who studies medieval heresy and inquisition, with particular interest in the intersection of religion, politics, and economics in western Europe from the Carolingians to 1350 CE.

EDIT Both being in Europe /u/TheGreenReaper7 and/u/idjet are tired and going to sleep! They'll check in on new questions and comments in the morning.

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Can you explain the use of the word "plastic" vessels when speaking about the 4th millennium Mycenaean art?

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Did the Ottoman Empire ever seek to establish colonies?

Were the Ottomans ever inspired to establish colonies in the same way Europeans were?

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I've heard that some people believe that Jesus was more than one person, what do you think about this?

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What can you tell me about this Roman stone my neighbours dug up?

It was found in Montenegro, Europe, near the archaeological site of "Municipium S". From what I can read it says "SILVAN AVC SACR" but the V and A in the first word are connected. Any clues about its meaning or significance would be appreciated.

Pic #1 (http://imgur.com/CtWLkmH,F4Cp7Nz#0)

Pic #2 (http://imgur.com/CtWLkmH,F4Cp7Nz#1)

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Did skilled swordsmen actually have a visually distinctive walk?

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Alfred of Wessex is, to my understanding, credited with advances in the administration of kingdoms and general logistics. What were the nature of these? Can you recommend a layman's-terms book on this subject?

Some basic reading of popular sources (after enjoying some trash fiction about the period) formed this question in my mind, but I'd prefer a digest rather than a heavy textbook....

2 Answers 2014-07-26

During the Christian conversions of Pagans during Mid/Late Antiquity, did the Christians consider the Pagan "Gods of Good" as evil?

Considering that there were many deities being worshipped and its most likely that the general populous prayed for decent/reasonable (non "evil") stuff, then it's probably safe to assume that most people worshipped the more philanthropic, benevolent, and optimistic "good" gods over someone like Hades. Given that assumption, how did Christian missionaries react and handle their beliefs; both directly and personally in their writing or theology.

Its fairly common knowledge now that the 25th of December (on the Gregorian Calendar) is a proxy for some benevolent Solar deity's holiday as there's no real definitive record of which date Christ was born. Considering that maybe some of the teachings were the same, how did Missionaries approach these congruences between Pagan and Christian teaching?

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In Shakespeare time, were there any vocal European voices that echoed our own now cliche "war is hell" sentiment toward war?

Or was war always glorified?

1 Answers 2014-07-26

Just HOW gangsta WERE N.W.A. and it's members?

Not your typical post, I know.

1 Answers 2014-07-26

I am a Pirate during the 17th century. What would my day to day life be like? What would happen if i was caught?

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Oldest mass produced food?

http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2br0bq/til_dr_pepper_is_the_oldest_soda_thats_still/

From a TIL (I'm sorry).

What is the oldest mass produced food product? Which mass produced food products are least changed?

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What was the most infamous/ruthless/heartless way in which someone close to the position of absolute power disposed the predecessor to become the new absolute position of power?

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If I was an Irish immigrant coming to America during the Potato famine during the 1850's; what would I have to do at Ellis Island to gain citizenship?

Did the standards get tougher towards the end of the immigration influx as time went on into the early 20th century?

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Why did Austria retain an archduchy even a century after the HRE dissolved?

I've even asked my history teacher before, and he really couldn't give me an answer. Was an archduchy kept for just traditional reasons?

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When were eunuchs first used?

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