How did the Irish independence movement change from general independence to sectarian conflict?

I have been reading about the Irish Civil War and The Troubles over the past few days and I am wondering how the movement changed from independence from Britain in general to what I consider to be a sectarian conflict.

From my (admittedly limited) reading, it seems that the independence movement started as a general feeling that Ireland should be its own state. I have read that there used to be groups supporting independence that were both Protestant and Catholic - I am thinking of the initial revolution in 1798 by the Society of United Irishmen which seems to me to be a Protestant organization supporting Catholic rights. This doesn't seem to be something that would cause a lot of anger from Catholics.

After that, the other organizations seeking independence seem to be exclusively Catholic. While this can be explained by them looking for their own freedom, when I move on to The Troubles I see a great deal of conflict between the IRA/PIRA and UVF/UVA. What changed that they were no longer looking for the same thing?

Does religion play the major part in the division between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, or is it simply historical? It seems as if Northern Ireland is mostly Protestant and the Republic of Ireland is mostly Catholic. Was it always this way or did it develop after the fighting started?

1 Answers 2014-02-21

What brought an end to the Black Plague?

Why did it not keep going? What made it diee out and allow Europeans to recover the population numbers?

1 Answers 2014-02-21

Should we, as historians, make moral judgements?

As humans, we have a natural desire to say what is right and condemn the things that are wrong for a number or reasons. But as historians, should we make moral judgements upon the subjects we study? Can we even make moral judgements upon the subjects we study given the nature of our methodology?

3 Answers 2014-02-21

Did the "Wanted" sign ever exist? When did it become popularized?

1 Answers 2014-02-21

Are there historical examples of a nation splitting into 2 or more nations with very little or no aggression?

1 Answers 2014-02-21

Economically, how did countries fare after a revolution/ political upheaval?

I'm wanting to know how many actually became successful. I know America became successful eventually, although it had valuable goods to trade to England. What about other countries?

Edit: Within 2 decades of the respective country's revolution.

1 Answers 2014-02-21

What would you say to a Holocaust denier?

1 Answers 2014-02-20

Even at its height, how powerful was the British Empire?

I've always thought that it was a misnomer to call it a superpower. Surely it was the first amongst other European empires and the USA.

1 Answers 2014-02-20

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27 Answers 2014-02-20

Questions regarding Japanese Textbooks before WWII

I am reading Nisei Memories by Paul Howard Takemoto and as a primary source document he quotes a Memorandum to Chief of Review Section Alien Enemy Control Unit. It is as quoted, "Upon information that he was a teacher in a Japanese Language School which scholars indirectly controlled by the Japanese Government through textbooks approved in Japan, designed to instill patriotism and loyalty to the Emperor...." (59)

Were these textbooks (using hindsight) really propaganda? Did the "Japanese Schools" in the United States really have much contact with the Japanese government?

1 Answers 2014-02-20

Why my parents pictured here with me in Poland in a middle of 80's have American combat jacked.

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What is the general consensus regarding the veracity of "El Dorado?" Do any credible archaeologists believe it ever existed, or is it purely myth?

I am curious to know if anyone has bothered looking for it since the conquistadors gave up.

1 Answers 2014-02-20

Would Soviet missiles, if launched, have hit Canada instead of the United States?

A memory surfaced recently of a professor during university saying something to this effect, that after the Cold War ended it was discovered that many missiles had been miscalibrated and would not have hit their targets in the US, but would have fallen in Canada instead. Is there any truth to this? Any engaging books that you would recommend on the topic? Many thanks.

2 Answers 2014-02-20

Egyptologists of AskHistorians: any non-crackpot theories as to the purpose of the pyramids at Giza?

I'll elaborate: I have been skeptical since childhood of the pyramids at Giza having been built as elaborate ossuaries. The lack of adornment, the multiple chambers and air shafts and lacklustre dating all seem to suggest there may be more to these megaliths than meets the eye. That being said, I'm not very fond of things like "The Pyramid Code" and anything by Bauvall/Hancock, which just reeks of epicycles of conjecture rather than serious scholarship.

So, if someone may be so kind, are there any legitimate alternate theories to the origins of the Giza necropolis? Similarly, could anyone recommend good literature on the subject?

1 Answers 2014-02-20

What was the most pivotal year in American history? 1963, 1965 or 1968?

1 Answers 2014-02-20

Has there ever been a society/civilization/culture that had no religion?

It seems like every civilization from antiquity to modern times has one or more religions. By religion I mean the worshiping of one or more deities with the hope of affecting their lives or the world around them in beneficial ways. Has there been a civilization that had no religion?

2 Answers 2014-02-20

Were Roman armies on the border of the Persian empire trained differently compared to those on Germanic border?

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What happened to the reparations Germany had to pay to the allies after WW1?

Where did the money go? Did it help the areas of France and Belgium damaged by the war or was it squandered?

1 Answers 2014-02-20

Can anyone recommend a good book on Charles Martel?

Not looking for quite a direct biography since there isn't too much info on the Charles but perhaps a book talking about the build up to the Carolingian dynasty that references Charles Martel. I can't seem to find a good one anywhere

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How did the Mayan Language get deciphered? Specifically, why did Whorf and Knorozov think its syllabic? Even knowing it is syllabic, how did the archaeological community create the Mayan lexicon?

I'm taking an anthropology class about the Americas, and the scope of how this happened is beyond the level of the class. I've ready the wiki entry, but its kind of vague on some of the specifics of the translation process, and I'm not sure I want to read an entire book devoted to the process, although that might change.

Edit: Thanks a bunch for the replies! This helps a lot.

3 Answers 2014-02-20

From 1812 to 1858 what were the big changes in England due to being isolated from France, Germany, and the rest of Europe

2 Answers 2014-02-20

Naval historians - A question about Royal Navy actions in Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World

I recently watched the film again (okay I confess I watch it all the time) and something in the early part of the film has a meaning that I don't understand. Shortly after the start, the HMS Surprise beats to quarters, preparing the ship for possible battle. During these preparations, before the enemy ship revealed itself, the crew launches their boats in a line to drag behind the ship.

What was the point of that? Was there some tactical purpose in it? Or were they simply clearing the main deck and making more room in case of actual combat?

1 Answers 2014-02-20

What are some good sources about Qin Shi Huang's unification of China?

I'm interested in reading about anything leading up to through the rule of Qin Shi Huang as Emperor of China. What were the details of the politics, wars and lives of all of the Warring States? Anything that falls mostly within these categories I'd be interested in reading, and the more detailed about these specifics, the better.

2 Answers 2014-02-20

In which era does the movie Tangled and Frozen take place?

I hope these kind of questions are allowed. The question came to mind because Sleeping Beauty clearly takes place in medieval times, and Belle seems to have a slimmed down dress version of the French court.

I think it takes place around the mid 1800's based on clothes,manner is and the overall look of the atmosphere. Can an expert on cultural/social history tell me in which time it takes place based on hints in the films?

I know it's a fairytale universe and historical accuracy is thus laughable, but I think cultural and social historians could answer this question based on arguments like: it doesn't take place in this time period because walking buffet's weren't a thing until...

5 Answers 2014-02-20

Dragons?

Is there an origin to the legends of dragons? I think there is but how did they start?

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